Right to work

Thatguy123 · Apr 10, 2015

I'm a relatively new full time cover driver and have been with the company for 7 years. Long story short, we got a fill in center manager for a month because our other one is out with surgery. Now this new center manager is saying on days that us cover drivers are extras, we can't ask other drivers with more seniority to go home because we're at the bottom of the totem pole. Really?? They want to go home so why does it matter.. Also, they've talked about doing layoffs since it's slowed down and making us do preload. Am I guaranteed 8 hrs of work if that happens and do I stay at driver pay? This is just bs to me and all started once she took over.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Apr 10, 2015

Get the cell phone numbers of the senior drivers of the routes that you cover and text them in the morning to see if any of them want the day off.

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Apr 10, 2015

Thatguy123 said:
I'm a relatively new full time cover driver and have been with the company for 7 years. Long story short, we got a fill in center manager for a month because our other one is out with surgery. Now this new center manager is saying on days that us cover drivers are extras, we can't ask other drivers with more seniority to go home because we're at the bottom of the totem pole. Really?? They want to go home so why does it matter.. Also, they've talked about doing layoffs since it's slowed down and making us do preload. Am I guaranteed 8 hrs of work if that happens and do I stay at driver pay? This is just bs to me and all started once she took over.

Only 8/hour guarantee if you drive and deliver ground.

Thatguy123 · Apr 10, 2015

That's what I have been doing. She's now saying we can't do that because we have less seniority. My thing is I make about $10 less than they do and they want to go home. Wouldn't that be more motivation for them wanting me to work

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Apr 10, 2015

Thatguy123 said:
That's what I have been doing. She's now saying we can't do that because we have less seniority. My thing is I make about $10 less than they do and they want to go home. Wouldn't that be more motivation for them wanting me to work

When I was a casual (cover driver) I used to show up dressed and ready to work. There was always someone willing to take the day off.

Keep doing what you are doing.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Apr 10, 2015

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U said:
Only 8/hour guarantee if you drive and deliver ground.

...unless you agree to run Code 05...

Thatguy123 · Apr 10, 2015

Is it right for her telling us we can't ask other drivers to go home? Can she do that? That doesn't seem right

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Apr 10, 2015

05 is a contract violation. I will never use it. Hand me a broom

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Apr 10, 2015

Thatguy123 said:
Is it right for her telling us we can't ask other drivers to go home? Can she do that? That doesn't seem right

Does your regular center manager allow this? If so, just hang tight until he/she comes back.

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Apr 10, 2015

Thatguy123 said:
Is it right for her telling us we can't ask other drivers to go home? Can she do that? That doesn't seem right

Honestly Its not a smart business move. Pay me full rate or pay you half of my rate.

If the guy making the most wants to go home,let him. And pay you much less.!

UPS math, I will never understand it.

Brownslave688 · Apr 10, 2015

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U said:
05 is a contract violation. I will never use it. Hand me a broom

Yeah printed out my time card from Monday and I didn't take all of my break. Noticed at the too it said contract violation give warning letter. Lol

Brownslave688 · Apr 10, 2015

Thatguy123 said:
That's what I have been doing. She's now saying we can't do that because we have less seniority. My thing is I make about $10 less than they do and they want to go home. Wouldn't that be more motivation for them wanting me to work

Rule number 1. This place rarely makes sense.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Apr 10, 2015

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U said:
05 is a contract violation. I will never use it. Hand me a broom

It is? Care to give me the article and subsection?

Rainman · Apr 10, 2015

Depends on your area. Where I am if you are full time permanent ( not temp driver) you can bump 2 part time positions to get an 8 hour guarantee. Ask your shop steward.

upssouth · Apr 10, 2015

You are guaranteed to work 8 as a full time driver. Make them send you home if there is no work available. Then file for your daily guarantee. Also watch your on roads and file on them if they work while you're not. They will find you work.

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Apr 10, 2015

UpstateNYUPSer said:
It is? Care to give me the article and subsection?

Its in the local,not the master.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Apr 10, 2015

upssouth said:
You are guaranteed to work 8 as a full time driver. Make them send you home if there is no work available. Then file for your daily guarantee. Also watch your on roads and file on them if they work while you're not. They will find you work.

The OP is a cover driver who is only guaranteed his 8 if he actually works that day.

Thatguy123 · Apr 10, 2015

So you're saying I can't get my 8 hours in the hub at night? Only if I work that day?

IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U · Apr 10, 2015

Thatguy123 said:
So you're saying I can't get my 8 hours in the hub at night? Only if I work that day?

Correct

clean hairy · Apr 10, 2015

After you become full time regular driver, you will be on here asking if you can be sent home so cover drivers can get hours.

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