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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 300377" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>No argument the events in the republican party are interesting to some, and to others? To quote someone here, "sickening!" As much disarray as the repubs. seem to be in and I would concur with that thought, the democrats are not without their mounting potential for volcanic eruption. The liberal core of the party (not the leadership) knows Hillary is no anti-war type contary to so-called conservative labeling. She was part and parcel with Bill in the 90's with the Balkans which many to this day are even more puzzled over than Iraq and even discounting her Iraq war vote she recently voted to make the Iranian Republican Guard a terrorist organization which in effect greenlights Bush or in her case, the next sitting President to go full out into Iran. Much of the reason the anti-war left has shifted to Obama as they see her as the war party (democrat style) candidate. Even Michael Moore said his beliefs prevented him from voting for her. Pull up YouTube Micheal Moore/Larry King show.</p><p></p><p>But Obama isn't anti-war either! He is anti-Iraq or so he sez but how firm is that position? </p><p></p><p>I'd also ask you consider the following 3 item.</p><p></p><p>1) <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/08/sparks-fly-over.html" target="_blank">http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/08/sparks-fly-over.html</a> He takes us into Pakistan?</p><p></p><p>2) <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-kenya_sidejan09,1,7013897.story?ctrack=1&cset=true" target="_blank">http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-kenya_sidejan09,1,7013897.story?ctrack=1&cset=true</a> Would he expand the American empire in the tragic situations of Africa?</p><p></p><p>3) <a href="http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070701faessay86401/barack-obama/renewing-american-leadership.html" target="_blank">http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070701faessay86401/barack-obama/renewing-american-leadership.html</a> Or a return to true global democratization (Wilsonian style) under the guise of Common Security for a Common Humanity or this a veiled way of saying New World Order Democrat Party Style?</p><p></p><p>As republicans of a conservative nature may have to hold their nose and vote McCain to maintain power or as they obviously were prepared to do in the case of Romney at least IMO, I think the hardcore liberal anti-war wing of the democrat party will have to do the same with either Hillary or Obama but there is a problem underneath that the republicans won't have to face.</p><p></p><p>In some quaters, it's building steam in a bad way to the point that Donna Brazille, super delegate at large, on Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer told Wolf that she would resign her position in the party if the Superdelgate process selected the nominee over the voice of the voters. Now why would Donna say such a thing? Because IMO she understands exactly what voter suppression means and what her parties actions are all about. Even the voices of Democratic Underground are speaking out <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4445803" target="_blank">http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4445803</a> Even Hoard Dean earlier this week said that he would call a meeting in April in there is no clear front runner so seek a compromise or in other words, convince one or the other to step aside in order to avoid a convention disaster.</p><p></p><p>Add to this that Florida and Michigan, because they went against the party bosses with their primaries, at this time are not allowed to seat their delegates and thus the voice of those democrat voters have been silenced. Again, voter suppression! And under all of this is the evil stain of racism peeking out it's ugly head in the race between Hillary and Obama and in many quarters of democrat circles, it's led by a former democrat President who should know better. Some argue his comments were meant to cause fear among a white southern electorate which seems at this time to all but ignored his words.</p><p></p><p>The repubs. have their problems and issues but the democrats aren't without their broken windows either. Before you start throwing rocks, at least make sure you walked outside your own house to do so!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 300377, member: 2189"] No argument the events in the republican party are interesting to some, and to others? To quote someone here, "sickening!" As much disarray as the repubs. seem to be in and I would concur with that thought, the democrats are not without their mounting potential for volcanic eruption. The liberal core of the party (not the leadership) knows Hillary is no anti-war type contary to so-called conservative labeling. She was part and parcel with Bill in the 90's with the Balkans which many to this day are even more puzzled over than Iraq and even discounting her Iraq war vote she recently voted to make the Iranian Republican Guard a terrorist organization which in effect greenlights Bush or in her case, the next sitting President to go full out into Iran. Much of the reason the anti-war left has shifted to Obama as they see her as the war party (democrat style) candidate. Even Michael Moore said his beliefs prevented him from voting for her. Pull up YouTube Micheal Moore/Larry King show. But Obama isn't anti-war either! He is anti-Iraq or so he sez but how firm is that position? I'd also ask you consider the following 3 item. 1) [url]http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/08/sparks-fly-over.html[/url] He takes us into Pakistan? 2) [url]http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-kenya_sidejan09,1,7013897.story?ctrack=1&cset=true[/url] Would he expand the American empire in the tragic situations of Africa? 3) [url]http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070701faessay86401/barack-obama/renewing-american-leadership.html[/url] Or a return to true global democratization (Wilsonian style) under the guise of Common Security for a Common Humanity or this a veiled way of saying New World Order Democrat Party Style? As republicans of a conservative nature may have to hold their nose and vote McCain to maintain power or as they obviously were prepared to do in the case of Romney at least IMO, I think the hardcore liberal anti-war wing of the democrat party will have to do the same with either Hillary or Obama but there is a problem underneath that the republicans won't have to face. In some quaters, it's building steam in a bad way to the point that Donna Brazille, super delegate at large, on Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer told Wolf that she would resign her position in the party if the Superdelgate process selected the nominee over the voice of the voters. Now why would Donna say such a thing? Because IMO she understands exactly what voter suppression means and what her parties actions are all about. Even the voices of Democratic Underground are speaking out [url]http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4445803[/url] Even Hoard Dean earlier this week said that he would call a meeting in April in there is no clear front runner so seek a compromise or in other words, convince one or the other to step aside in order to avoid a convention disaster. Add to this that Florida and Michigan, because they went against the party bosses with their primaries, at this time are not allowed to seat their delegates and thus the voice of those democrat voters have been silenced. Again, voter suppression! And under all of this is the evil stain of racism peeking out it's ugly head in the race between Hillary and Obama and in many quarters of democrat circles, it's led by a former democrat President who should know better. Some argue his comments were meant to cause fear among a white southern electorate which seems at this time to all but ignored his words. The repubs. have their problems and issues but the democrats aren't without their broken windows either. Before you start throwing rocks, at least make sure you walked outside your own house to do so! [/QUOTE]
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