Route dispatch grievance

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by S.F. Rush, Dec 15, 2019.

  1. S.F. Rush

    S.F. Rush All Encompassing Member

    Anybody know where in the contract it states if your route is being changed over certain percentage from normal, you can grieve it? Some say no more than 20%, others say it’s 50%. :confused:
  2. Rack em

    Rack em First to worst!

    Depends on your supplement and/or rider. Ours is 50%.
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  3. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    Good lucky proving it. I had the same issue. I’d love to hear someone chime in on BC that was successful in proving 50% of work was moved.
    And OP it is 50%
  4. scooby0048

    scooby0048 This page left intentionally blank

    50% then you have option to follow your work in central.
  5. S.F. Rush

    S.F. Rush All Encompassing Member

    Ok thanks for the info.
  6. rod

    rod #1 on Upstates "list"

    This time of year they tend to get away with murder--or at least try to.
  7. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    It is 50%.
  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Well-Known Member

    They like to change route numbers to cover their butts.
  9. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    If only there was a stickie at the top of this page....

    with a link to all the contract language.
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  10. BrownMonk

    BrownMonk Old fart Package Car Driver

    Feeders or package?
  11. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    Central Region language.

    Section 9—Route Changes

    (a) Temporary:

    "Other than the period of November 15th through January 15th if a bid area is changed fifty percent (50%) or more, the employee shall have the right to follow the portion in excess of fifty percent (50%) of the delivery stops. If the temporary change involves more than a two-way split, the driver shall select by seniority.

    (b) Permanent:

    If, during the life of this Agreement, a driver’s bid area is permanently changed by fifty percent (50%) or more of the total stops, start time change of more than one (1) hour or a change of fifty percent (50%) or more of the area or loop, he/she shall have the right to follow whichever portion of his/her bid area he/she desires or he/ she will have the option to bump a junior driver in accordance with local seniority practices. This procedure shall be repeated a second (2nd) and third (3rd) time with the fourth (4th) move being assigned.

    It is understood, the above provision does not apply to the period of November 15th through January 15th.

    In centers where drivers bid on delivery areas, the bid shall contain a geographic description of the area or loop and identify the base line. It is understood that day-to-day adjustments may be made. The above language shall also apply to full-time combination jobs."

  12. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Norcal Sup
    Article 3 Sec 12
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  13. BrownMonk

    BrownMonk Old fart Package Car Driver

    So you have this for package drivers?
  14. MenInBrown

    MenInBrown Well-Known Member

    Actually it’s up to UPS to prove otherwise. They have all the documents to prove if certain sections have been on your route for Atleast 3/4 of the year.
  15. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Me and the guy in the loop next to me both were able to fix dispatch issues by asking to follow our work that was cut to cut cars. Lower seniority people had our work, so bumping them off was easy.
  16. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    Yes, I’m sure it can be done, but it’s not easy when you walk in 3 minutes before the start time every day, and your on car and center manager haven’t spoken to you in months because you shoved so many 9.5 grievances up their arse. I would think it would take some help from them to find out where the heck the work went. They weren’t doing me any favors. I was always amazed when the kiss :censored2: would get stops taken off their car and moved that morning. In a million years, I would never ask for that. They would laugh at me.
  17. JL 0513

    JL 0513 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, mine changed 49.8% so I was out of luck.
  18. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    It is on you, do not expect your on-car or the dispatch supe to help you out. The only way I can make it stick is to come in early on days that I suspect they are going to bend me over and look at the dispatch of my route and the route where they usually move my stops. The dispatch supe does not fight it when I say that I want to follow my work, I have to clean my personal stuff out of my package car and move it to the cut car. He refuses to load my route into my package car. Usually, I can tell when I put my lunchbox in my car by seeing where my section 8 stops end.

    The A guy in my loop is going on the 9/5 list in January, once he is on, everyone in the loop will be on the list and another cut car will have to go in or a reloop.
  19. Poop Head

    Poop Head Lovin' every minute of it!

    So, another cut car will go in.
  20. 35years

    35years Well-Known Member

    I was able to do it twice...Permanent route changes, so I bumped on to entirety different routes.

    Each time I was able to bump into a much better route.

    The 1st time I bumped into an open route that was better.

    The 2nd time I bumped a less senior kiss ass who had been handed the best route in the entire area (he didn't have to bid into it).

    Always print out a week or at least a day of delivery records when you start a new route. It makes it easier to prove if they later change it. Tell management you want the delivery records so you can go over them on your own time so you can figure out how to become more efficient.:rolleyes:
    Last edited: Jan 2, 2020