Routes being moved to another building

[tworavens]

Word in our building has it that a number of routes will be moved to another building no later than August. Most likely I will follow my route to the new building, even though my commute will go from 5 minutes to 40. Aside from that, I expect it will be much as if I had just gotten a new center management team. Still, I am wondering if anyone out there has gone through such a move, and if so, how was your experience? Any unforeseen problems, or was it all smooth sailing?

 

[flyboy35]

are you in the redmond building? Word is they are meeting with shop stewards and the union on thursday to discuss this.

 

[diesel96]

Word in our building has it that a number of routes will be moved to another building no later than August. Most likely I will follow my route to the new building, even though my commute will go from 5 minutes to 40. Aside from that, I expect it will be much as if I had just gotten a new center management team. Still, I am wondering if anyone out there has gone through such a move, and if so, how was your experience? Any unforeseen problems, or was it all smooth sailing?

You must have a stellar route if your willing to give up a 5 minute drive to work for a 40 min drive....Besides losing almost 2 hr's a day commuting, the wear and tear on your personal vehicle and your monthly gas expenses, not to mention rush hour stress and blood pressure levels going up, keep in mind, the route you follow may alter if the mileage changes. Other things to keep in mind are getting to know where you stand on their senority list. Will it increase or decrease your chances for bid routes, vacations, days off, feeders...etc... And also, get a feel for approx how many spots you possibly can you move up if you stay put.....I don't mean to sound so negative, but you did ask for any unforeseen problems.....Good Luck whatever you decide...

 

[speeddemon]

We were told last week we were losing an Package and a feeder route. They say the volume is low, yet I worked until 930pm last night. Go figure.

 

[3 done 3 to go]

We had 3 routes leave our building 3 yrs ago. One of the routes is just 9 miles away from the center. It also took the sorters about 1 year to send the packages to the right center. Management had to bring the missorts to the driver every day. Some days he got 30 stops extra. Our center still gets up to 10 a day. Now they leave them at the building for for redirect.

 

[trplnkl]

diesel96 is right in some of the possible changes. One other to think about. Depending on how the routes are bid and for how long in the center the routes are moving to are a consideration.
For example: If you have 2 years left on your route bid at this time you keep your route till the bids come around again, then it's open to higher senior divers.
Before you make your final decision, talk to your BA to see what the agreement is on how it all effects you. Yes, they do have to discuss the moving of work from one center to another.
I hope it all works well for you.

 

[rod]

All those ahead of you on the seniority list at the new center won't give a darn. Those with less seniority will hate you for knocking them down a notch. At your old center those with less seniority will love to see you gone About the time you get all settled into the new center UPS will bring your area back to the old center because "things didn't go as good in the real world as it appeared they would on paper". I've seen this senerio take place twice.

 

[askingforafriend]

Is there any language in the contract regarding routes being moved due to building closures?

Are there rights to bump if domiciled in a satellite but moved to a hub even though there are junior drivers staying at the domiciled satellite?

 

[KearsargeCoop]

Is there any language in the contract regarding routes being moved due to building closures?

Are there rights to bump if domiciled in a satellite but moved to a hub even though there are junior drivers staying at the domiciled satellite?

What supplement are you under? The Central is in the sup and under seniority, section 7.

 

[askingforafriend]

What supplement are you under? The Central is in the sup and under seniority, section 7.

Thanks for replying. I am also in the Central and the issue is a center is closing moving work to 3 locations. My route is being moved from satellite to a hub an hour away. I'm being told by both Union and company that because the satellite and hub are the same center I have no rights other than to move to the hub.

In the old days of your domicile was changed you could stay and bump a junior. Apparently that's no longer the case. Still searching for something if anyone can help!

Thank you

 

[burco8080]

The union and company are telling you a fact. If there is another center you can transfer to you can, but you will be bottom of seniority.

 

[Wally]

Thanks for replying. I am also in the Central and the issue is a center is closing moving work to 3 locations. My route is being moved from satellite to a hub an hour away. I'm being told by both Union and company that because the satellite and hub are the same center I have no rights other than to move to the hub.

In the old days of your domicile was changed you could stay and bump a junior. Apparently that's no longer the case. Still searching for something if anyone can help!

Thank you

It should be considered a separate center with its own seniority list, this way, if the building moves or gets shut down, you dovetail.

 

[ManInBrown]

Word in our building has it that a number of routes will be moved to another building no later than August. Most likely I will follow my route to the new building, even though my commute will go from 5 minutes to 40. Aside from that, I expect it will be much as if I had just gotten a new center management team. Still, I am wondering if anyone out there has gone through such a move, and if so, how was your experience? Any unforeseen problems, or was it all smooth sailing?

Happened to routes in the building I did package in after I left for feeders. Personally IMO you’re crazy to follow a route and extend your commute time 70 minutes per day. I would never. Suck it up and become a cover driver. Living 5 minutes from work is priceless.

 

[oldngray]

Happened to routes in the building I did package in after I left for feeders. Personally IMO you’re crazy to follow a route and extend your commute time 70 minutes per day. I would never. Suck it up and become a cover driver. Living 5 minutes from work is priceless.

I was forced to move to another building when I had very low seniority. There were limited bids on routes between the buildings so later I was able to bid back on a crap route nobody else wanted. Then later was able to bid on a better route there. Getting done later isn't as bad when you only live a few miles away.

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

Thanks for replying. I am also in the Central and the issue is a center is closing moving work to 3 locations. My route is being moved from satellite to a hub an hour away. I'm being told by both Union and company that because the satellite and hub are the same center I have no rights other than to move to the hub.

In the old days of your domicile was changed you could stay and bump a junior. Apparently that's no longer the case. Still searching for something if anyone can help!

Thank you

Is this IL?

 

[100%ORIONComplianceGuy]

Thanks for replying. I am also in the Central and the issue is a center is closing moving work to 3 locations. My route is being moved from satellite to a hub an hour away. I'm being told by both Union and company that because the satellite and hub are the same center I have no rights other than to move to the hub.

In the old days of your domicile was changed you could stay and bump a junior. Apparently that's no longer the case. Still searching for something if anyone can help!

Thank you

I haven’t looked at the central in years. But in my area if a route is moved to another building we can follow the work and be dovetailed. Or chose to stay in the current center and exercise seniority there. Doesn’t matter the type of building. Satellite or not. And the route can be followed by a non bid driver if the current bid driver decides to stay. And, apparently, the same applies to any other work that is moved.

 

[MyTripisCut]

Is there any language in the contract regarding routes being moved due to building closures?

Are there rights to bump if domiciled in a satellite but moved to a hub even though there are junior drivers staying at the domiciled satellite?

If the building was closed it should be article 38, Change of Operations. If the work was moved, you should be able to follow it and dovetail to where it was moved.

 

[MyTripisCut]

Is there any language in the contract regarding routes being moved due to building closures?

Are there rights to bump if domiciled in a satellite but moved to a hub even though there are junior drivers staying at the domiciled satellite?

Call your Local!!!!

 

[askingforafriend]

Call your Local!!!!

That's already been done, if you knew anything about my local you'd know you have to do your own research. The problem seems to be they're using the term presadence has been set in a similar situation this changing the old ways!

 

[askingforafriend]

I haven’t looked at the central in years. But in my area if a route is moved to another building we can follow the work and be dovetailed. Or chose to stay in the current center and exercise seniority there. Doesn’t matter the type of building. Satellite or not. And the route can be followed by a non bid driver if the current bid driver decides to stay. And, apparently, the same applies to any other work that is moved.

The problem is the buildings are all considered the same center. It's a 100 person center with 2 satellites and a hub that houses 4 centers. So I'm being told that even though I have a bid route domiciled 35 miles from the hub I have to report to the hub when my route is moved there.

A bigger issue is only half the satellite is being moved to the hub, the other half stays. And there's 4 junior people staying . Another issue is they just bid out a new route never bid last week and announced the moves this week.

The new route that's never had a bid driver stays as well!