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<blockquote data-quote="TearsInRain" data-source="post: 5183989" data-attributes="member: 24487">my degree thesis paper was on counter-insurgency btw; we absolutely could not have won in afghanistan as long as it was majority pashtunno amount of &#039;eating soup with a knife&#039; or surges or afghaninizing the war would have ever worked because they literally dont have any concept of what a NATION is at all; how do you nation build people who dont want a nation?it is not just a boogeyman, the MIC is a corrupt and inefficient political lobbying monster that influences foreign policy to the detriment of American interestsif the MIC was just some rich corps who took too long and went over budget, but did nothing else, i&#039;d agree with you; but that&#039;s NOT what they areFirst off, the MIC didn&#039;t exist during the Korean War; it came about during the 50&#039;s, mostly after the warSecond, Afghanistan is absolutely in a worse state than it was pre-American involvementThird, anti-war sentiment was popular after WW1 because WW1 was a literally pointless meat-grinder that left Europe worse off than it was beforeyou have GOT to be trollingCentral/South America are completely <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2&nbsp; &nbsp; :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />ed up beyond belief, in many ways because of our <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2&nbsp; &nbsp; :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />ty and hamfisted interventionshell, keeping the Soviets at bay at all was a total waste in retrospect because their whole system was a doomed loser to begin with</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TearsInRain, post: 5183989, member: 24487"] my degree thesis paper was on counter-insurgency btw; we absolutely could not have won in afghanistan as long as it was majority pashtun no amount of 'eating soup with a knife' or surges or afghaninizing the war would have ever worked because [B]they literally dont have any concept of what a NATION is at all[/B]; how do you nation build people who dont want a nation? it is not just a boogeyman, the MIC is a corrupt and inefficient political lobbying monster that influences foreign policy to the detriment of American interests if the MIC was just some rich corps who took too long and went over budget, but did nothing else, i'd agree with you; [B]but that's NOT what they are[/B] First off, the MIC didn't exist during the Korean War; it came about during the 50's, mostly after the war Second, Afghanistan is absolutely in a worse state than it was pre-American involvement Third, anti-war sentiment was popular after WW1 because WW1 was a literally pointless meat-grinder that left Europe worse off than it was before you have GOT to be trolling Central/South America are completely :censored:ed up beyond belief, in many ways because of our :censored:ty and hamfisted interventions hell, keeping the Soviets at bay at all was a total waste in retrospect because their whole system was a doomed loser to begin with [/QUOTE]

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