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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5191072" data-attributes="member: 24302">I watched a Lt. Colonel on FOX say pretty much the same thing about eventual Russian victory which was vehemently denied by others.&nbsp; Tucker Carlson has been pointing out we&#039;re potentially risking nuclear war to insure the sovereignty and border integrity of a country that&#039;s listed as even more corrupt than Russia while at the same time allowing millions come across our border illegally.&nbsp; So it&#039;s not like your sources are the only ones out there that have a different take on what&#039;s happening.&nbsp; The bottom line though is a bigger, more powerful nation chose to invade another nation to exert control and dominance over them.&nbsp; And are killing civilians in the bargain.&nbsp; It&#039;s easy to gin up moral outrage here but the ones doing the ginning up usually are using morality as a way to manipulate public sentiment.&nbsp; It&#039;s about the money that can be made by both restarting the Cold War as well as replacing Russia as Europe&#039;s main source of oil and gas.&nbsp; It&#039;s always about the money.&nbsp; And the power.&nbsp; It may be easy to manipulate young men who want to fight but a lot of us older people have seen this movie many times.&nbsp; And frankly we&#039;re tired of all the bloodletting whether it&#039;s a despot in Moscow or a bunch of smiling politicians in Washington.&nbsp; At this point humanity should have advanced to the point of helping lesser countries develop into a place where they can have decent lives.&nbsp; Not be treated as playthings there to be exploited.&nbsp; </blockquote>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5191072, member: 24302"] [B]I watched a Lt. Colonel on FOX say pretty much the same thing about eventual Russian victory which was vehemently denied by others. Tucker Carlson has been pointing out we're potentially risking nuclear war to insure the sovereignty and border integrity of a country that's listed as even more corrupt than Russia while at the same time allowing millions come across our border illegally. So it's not like your sources are the only ones out there that have a different take on what's happening. The bottom line though is a bigger, more powerful nation chose to invade another nation to exert control and dominance over them. And are killing civilians in the bargain. It's easy to gin up moral outrage here but the ones doing the ginning up usually are using morality as a way to manipulate public sentiment. It's about the money that can be made by both restarting the Cold War as well as replacing Russia as Europe's main source of oil and gas. It's always about the money. And the power. It may be easy to manipulate young men who want to fight but a lot of us older people have seen this movie many times. And frankly we're tired of all the bloodletting whether it's a despot in Moscow or a bunch of smiling politicians in Washington. At this point humanity should have advanced to the point of helping lesser countries develop into a place where they can have decent lives. Not be treated as playthings there to be exploited. [/B] [/QUOTE]

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