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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5843012" data-attributes="member: 24302">If you think the Democrats are pressing for aid to Ukraine because they&#039;re worried about Putin and Russia you&#039;re misguided.&nbsp; Trump got us out of Afghanistan and our defense industry needed a new conflict to fund.&nbsp; And don&#039;t kid yourself it was Biden who got us out.&nbsp; If Hillary had won in 2016 we&#039;d still be lodged in Afghanistan like a big tick and Ukraine would&#039;ve been invaded long ago.&nbsp; Likely Taiwan too.I&#039;m one of many Republicans who think that Ukraine&#039;s sovereignty matters.&nbsp; That the Russians feared Trump and waited for a weak president to invade.&nbsp; If Trump hadn&#039;t been screwed in 2020 Ukraine not only wouldn&#039;t have been invaded but if Russia had tried and Trump sent in troops the ones now saying eff Ukraine would have been waving American flags and saying eff Russia.&nbsp; And the Democrats would be calling Trump a warmonger getting us into an insane war with a nuclear power.&nbsp; And Joe Biden would be on a beach in Delaware contemplating his navel.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5843012, member: 24302"] If you think the Democrats are pressing for aid to Ukraine because they're worried about Putin and Russia you're misguided. Trump got us out of Afghanistan and our defense industry needed a new conflict to fund. And don't kid yourself it was Biden who got us out. If Hillary had won in 2016 we'd still be lodged in Afghanistan like a big tick and Ukraine would've been invaded long ago. Likely Taiwan too. I'm one of many Republicans who think that Ukraine's sovereignty matters. That the Russians feared Trump and waited for a weak president to invade. If Trump hadn't been screwed in 2020 Ukraine not only wouldn't have been invaded but if Russia had tried and Trump sent in troops the ones now saying eff Ukraine would have been waving American flags and saying eff Russia. And the Democrats would be calling Trump a warmonger getting us into an insane war with a nuclear power. And Joe Biden would be on a beach in Delaware contemplating his navel. [/QUOTE]

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