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<blockquote data-quote="Catatonic" data-source="post: 772093" data-attributes="member: 7966"><p>I guess I am a bit of a <strong>hack</strong>:</p><p>37 years here and yes indeedy it is a different company from the one we spent our first 30 years. Time will tell whether the new UPS is better for the long-term growth and stability of the company.</p><p></p><p>In the past companies in a transition period, like UPS is now, made very good profits short-term but their long-term trends went down. UPS may very well be living off the momentum of our old culture and intellectual capital for the short term. Time will tell if profits stay up and quality is maintained. </p><p>If this becomes a problem, it will eventually be recognized (consultants will tell them) and then UPS will take corrective action. The problem is that the company is driving off the best and brightest people and as you mentioned, you don't get the best with "industry average salaries" but then again maybe the best is not needed.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: red">They want old school ups management commitment @ a fraction of the salary and incentives.</span></p><p>Observations I have made that concern me:</p><p>One of the results of the cutback in personnel is the lack of "concern or quasi-ownership" by management except for those areas directly in their area of responsibility. "Not my area" is a common refrain now. "Not on my QPR" is also heard a lot.</p><p>Another, almost comical, aspect is people saying "I don't know" with the implied "and I'm not going to find out". These are some old-timers who had that knowledge 5 years ago and now they "know nothing".</p><p>There seems to be general following of the company lead - the company, in effect, has said "It's all about me ... you have to look out for yourself. UPS is not your Daddy anymore." And that seems, to me, to be exactly what people are doing, and unfortunately, to the extreme. I am concerned once the economy turns around, this will be become more obvious and noticeable.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: red">partners ? Is that a term that's used now</span> I have not hear the term partner in 2 or 3 years except in a derisive tone unless a level 20 or above is talking. That word has become a flash point with many people.</p><p></p><p>The Union buyout was a legal company obligation that had to be met and the locker room talk is that it is being financed to some extent by reduced management benefits.</p><p></p><p><strong>Views from the middle.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Catatonic, post: 772093, member: 7966"] I guess I am a bit of a [B]hack[/B]: 37 years here and yes indeedy it is a different company from the one we spent our first 30 years. Time will tell whether the new UPS is better for the long-term growth and stability of the company. In the past companies in a transition period, like UPS is now, made very good profits short-term but their long-term trends went down. UPS may very well be living off the momentum of our old culture and intellectual capital for the short term. Time will tell if profits stay up and quality is maintained. If this becomes a problem, it will eventually be recognized (consultants will tell them) and then UPS will take corrective action. The problem is that the company is driving off the best and brightest people and as you mentioned, you don't get the best with "industry average salaries" but then again maybe the best is not needed. [COLOR="red"]They want old school ups management commitment @ a fraction of the salary and incentives.[/COLOR] Observations I have made that concern me: One of the results of the cutback in personnel is the lack of "concern or quasi-ownership" by management except for those areas directly in their area of responsibility. "Not my area" is a common refrain now. "Not on my QPR" is also heard a lot. Another, almost comical, aspect is people saying "I don't know" with the implied "and I'm not going to find out". These are some old-timers who had that knowledge 5 years ago and now they "know nothing". There seems to be general following of the company lead - the company, in effect, has said "It's all about me ... you have to look out for yourself. UPS is not your Daddy anymore." And that seems, to me, to be exactly what people are doing, and unfortunately, to the extreme. I am concerned once the economy turns around, this will be become more obvious and noticeable. [COLOR="red"]partners ? Is that a term that's used now[/COLOR] I have not hear the term partner in 2 or 3 years except in a derisive tone unless a level 20 or above is talking. That word has become a flash point with many people. The Union buyout was a legal company obligation that had to be met and the locker room talk is that it is being financed to some extent by reduced management benefits. [B]Views from the middle.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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