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<blockquote data-quote="10 point" data-source="post: 1357988" data-attributes="member: 52520">There are multiple issues with the depravity of mankind and the basis of that can be summed up in one statement: &quot;Love your neighbor as yourself&quot;. (Indecision, no morphed posts on that please <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/smile.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)" data-shortname=":)" /> )Doing what that statement says takes personal integrity and that is a choice. But it&#039;s not typically human nature.Having a government run religion would never work because the Church itself can&#039;t agree on every issue. Just add government and you&#039;ve got a mess.I didn&#039;t pick Jefferson as a role model Christian leader he was brought up in an earlier post. I&#039;m really surprised that the issue of slavery wasn&#039;t interjected.The supposed waffling of Jefferson&#039;s Christian lifestyle is typical of humans but not the final word on this man who lived in a time of phenomenal responsibility and change.It is easy to say that in times of hardship we (many of us) pray for help and in prosperity we forget to be thankful. That, is also human nature. We always want more. Contentment isn&#039;t an easily found commodity today so I&#039;m not holding my breath either.The world is in turmoil. From families to national issues we can see uncertainty and things out of balance. The norm as we once knew it isn&#039;t normal anymore and I&#039;m not blaming the government (minus a few if their overreaching issues).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="10 point, post: 1357988, member: 52520"] There are multiple issues with the depravity of mankind and the basis of that can be summed up in one statement: "Love your neighbor as yourself". (Indecision, no morphed posts on that please :) ) Doing what that statement says takes personal integrity and that is a choice. But it's not typically human nature. Having a government run religion would never work because the Church itself can't agree on every issue. Just add government and you've got a mess. I didn't pick Jefferson as a role model Christian leader he was brought up in an earlier post. I'm really surprised that the issue of slavery wasn't interjected. The supposed waffling of Jefferson's Christian lifestyle is typical of humans but not the final word on this man who lived in a time of phenomenal responsibility and change. It is easy to say that in times of hardship we (many of us) pray for help and in prosperity we forget to be thankful. That, is also human nature. We always want more. Contentment isn't an easily found commodity today so I'm not holding my breath either. The world is in turmoil. From families to national issues we can see uncertainty and things out of balance. The norm as we once knew it isn't normal anymore and I'm not blaming the government (minus a few if their overreaching issues). [/QUOTE]

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