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Saul Alinski and Obama's 8 levels of control that must be obtained to change us to a socialist state
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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1463319" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>I've spoken of this in another thread with far more depth some time back but to understand socialism, one has to look back before coming forward. That said, to understand socialism, for that matter to understand all forms of modern statism, even the limited state is a limited form of monopoly state socialism, one needs to understand the 18th century frenchman, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Henri_de_Rouvroy,_comte_de_Saint-Simon" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Henri de Saint-Simon</strong></span></a>. Saint-Simon's idea of the technocratic state or rule by scientific expert was thus born and took root as foundation in the idea of the mighty and complex nationstate. </p><p></p><p>One can follow forward and observe how both statism (socialism in all forms) and scientism merged into its modern context. One of the best presentations that IMO helps connect the dots between all the forms of statism in many forms but together as one is the 1992' Adam Curtis documentary for the BBC entitled <a href="http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/pandoras-box/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>Pandora's Box</strong></span></a> broken into 6 episodes. </p><p></p><p>Understanding Saint-Simon's importance to the foundations of what we call socialism as a technocratic society and the 19th century as the dawn of "rational" science so to speak, Pandora's Box IMO closes all the loopholes and connects all the dots.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1463319, member: 2189"] I've spoken of this in another thread with far more depth some time back but to understand socialism, one has to look back before coming forward. That said, to understand socialism, for that matter to understand all forms of modern statism, even the limited state is a limited form of monopoly state socialism, one needs to understand the 18th century frenchman, [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Henri_de_Rouvroy,_comte_de_Saint-Simon'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]Henri de Saint-Simon[/B][/COLOR][/URL]. Saint-Simon's idea of the technocratic state or rule by scientific expert was thus born and took root as foundation in the idea of the mighty and complex nationstate. One can follow forward and observe how both statism (socialism in all forms) and scientism merged into its modern context. One of the best presentations that IMO helps connect the dots between all the forms of statism in many forms but together as one is the 1992' Adam Curtis documentary for the BBC entitled [URL='http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/pandoras-box/'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]Pandora's Box[/B][/COLOR][/URL] broken into 6 episodes. Understanding Saint-Simon's importance to the foundations of what we call socialism as a technocratic society and the 19th century as the dawn of "rational" science so to speak, Pandora's Box IMO closes all the loopholes and connects all the dots. [/QUOTE]
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