Say goodbye to the day after Thanksgiving as a holiday

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Robsmy, Feb 6, 2018.

  1. Over disciplined0123

    Over disciplined0123 Active Member

    AS WE HERE OF HOW THESE COMPANYS LIKE WALMART AND FED EX ARE TAKING CARE OF THIER EMPLOYESS BY RETURNING THE FEDERAL TAX CUT MONEY THESE COMPANIES WERE GIVING BY (Walmart employess each getting 1000) FedEx employess 6% raises and improvement in pensions .. Ups Is wanting to take money away from Us. What a kick in the face to ups employees. And I will bet that the Friday after Thanksgiving will no longer be considered a holiday for Us . I wonder how much money UPS will save by that and then giving us some of the things we want . We deserve more for the way we are treated and the toll our bodies take. It’s ridiculous how a route can increase by 65 stops a day in 4 years . How does that happen .
     
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  2. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    This post should get some sort of "detached from reality" award.
     
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  3. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    It happens because you somehow make it work. My stop count has not increased, but decreased due to good ol Orion and the 9.5 list. Take your lunch in the middle of the day like normal humans do. Anyone at UPS that is willing to be a victim will be taken advantage of.
     
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  4. Bag tosser

    Bag tosser New Member

    Where are you getting this information? your brain?
     
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  5. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Now, a low life jack wagon, and still loving it. Staff Member

    I gave up after trying to read it three times.
     
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  6. Wilson1397

    Wilson1397 Half the lies they tell about me aren't true!!

    Three times? I only made it through half of it and gave up.
     
  7. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Now, a low life jack wagon, and still loving it. Staff Member

    I said "tried."
     
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  8. Wilson1397

    Wilson1397 Half the lies they tell about me aren't true!!

    Lmao.....you’re right you did
     
  9. Catatonic

    Catatonic Nine Lives

    Your last sentence made sense!
     
  10. brownIEman

    brownIEman Well-Known Member

    Massively increased stop density? Just spit ballin' here
     
  11. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    I only made it half as far as you did?
     
  12. Observer

    Observer Member

    It's sad that the union didn't complain a few years ago when we were forced to work the day after Thanksgiving. It is listed in the master as a day off. Yet Hoffa looks the other way. Maybe this year we all should work the day after and then grieve it. IF they get enough individual grievance about the same thing this nonsense will stop.
     
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  13. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    Fear not! You’ll get your $1000-$3000 bonus. Unfortunately it will be on July 31st with the condition of “Just vote yes and it’s yours!”
     
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  14. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    Several of us took off the day after TG. It's a holiday, see you Monday.
     
  15. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    Wanna trade with the Walmart dude?
     
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  16. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Not quite.

    It's not in the Master.... because Holidays, are listed in the various supplements.



    That's the difference, between a complaint and an actual grievance.

    Working on an enumerated Holiday.... brings the addition of "premium pay".



    No he doesn't.


    The language pre-dates his election into office.

    The language was there, when Ron Carey was General President.

    The company.... didn't have the need to utilize it.



    -Bug-



    I heard the reason, was "anal glaucoma" ?

    :biggrin:
     
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  17. wide load

    wide load Starting wage is a waste of time.

    It’s called Conjunctivitis of the ballon knot. Get it right.
     
  18. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    If you're going to tell a story, tell the whole story???

    You claim that the "language pre-dates" Hoffa's election, but if you weren't attempting a "slight of hand"....

    ....wouldn't you also include that it "pre-dates" Ron Carey's election as General President, as well as Article 40 of the National Master???

    Didn't this language, in the various supplements, chronologically follow the evolution of the air transport industry as UPS chased FedEx?

    I actually have you to thank, from your fragmented history lessons on this site, for my understanding of the how this language evolved and was ultimately perverted for the Company's benefit and the bargaining unit losing one of the 8 "named holidays" as a paid day off.



    ~Bbbl~™
     
  19. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt


    Still.... can't get over the fact, that I'm right.

    And, the company can schedule you to work on any Holiday if it falls within your workweek.

    Hence the reason, for premium pay.



    -Bug-
     
  20. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    Nope, never was of any consequence to me, as I always have and always will volunteer to work for the "premium pay" on these days.


    What I can't get over is being repeatly told that I can't read, in the IBT trying to sell us on the notion that this language could actually mean something else:


    -A regular seniority employee shall not be required to work the following eight named ho!idays-


    There's a new caveat?...."falls within your work week"?


    Hence the reason I choose to work it, but some people value long standing family tradition?

    The language is definitive, yet is being sloppily reinterpreted to the contradictive contrary.

    If it isn't Article 40 that is being referenced as "otherwise provided in this agreement", where is it otherwise provided?




    ~Bbbl~™

     
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