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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 743782" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>I agree a free market doesn't exist and in the American experience may have just for the most brief of moments have existed in small localized situations but on a national level whether America or elsewhere, it never has. We agree there for sure. Whether it ever will down the road, in the moral mindset of mankind today, I'd have to give your "probably never will" the nod. However, if we continue to blame a pure fiction as the root cause of our economic problems rather than honestly facing what we are and what we have been doing along with what we really did wrong, how can we ever find a true workable long term solution? If you are prohibited from the ultimate root cause, you are left to only address the symptoms which are ever continuing regardless how hard you try to prevent until it ultimately destroys the host.</p><p> </p><p>BTW: The flipside is to blame Karl Marx and like blaming the free market, blaming Karl Marx is as big an equal fiction as well!</p><p> </p><p>On a bit of a comedic note, if a group of people actually tired to create a local true free market where any and all economic ideals from Austrian to Marxian could enter or exist at will, exist side by side and market players could enter and exit at will based on what worked best for them, the State would declare it illegal, sell it to the masses as some type of black market (anti-American in a nationalism sense) and then obtain societal compliance in order to crush it. So is the world we live and thus the proof that no free market does exist and that freedom and liberty are themselves pure fictions and illusions designed to occupy our minds in order to shade us from the truth that we are nothing more than field hands picking cotton in someone else's field!</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p> </p><p>The same fearism created by the state over so-called terrorists, so-called communists, global warming, Jesus is coming, etc. is the same fearism used by the state against a true free market. We likely won't get there but understanding that should at the least be instructive even while accepting our realities!</p><p> </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 743782, member: 2189"] I agree a free market doesn't exist and in the American experience may have just for the most brief of moments have existed in small localized situations but on a national level whether America or elsewhere, it never has. We agree there for sure. Whether it ever will down the road, in the moral mindset of mankind today, I'd have to give your "probably never will" the nod. However, if we continue to blame a pure fiction as the root cause of our economic problems rather than honestly facing what we are and what we have been doing along with what we really did wrong, how can we ever find a true workable long term solution? If you are prohibited from the ultimate root cause, you are left to only address the symptoms which are ever continuing regardless how hard you try to prevent until it ultimately destroys the host. BTW: The flipside is to blame Karl Marx and like blaming the free market, blaming Karl Marx is as big an equal fiction as well! On a bit of a comedic note, if a group of people actually tired to create a local true free market where any and all economic ideals from Austrian to Marxian could enter or exist at will, exist side by side and market players could enter and exit at will based on what worked best for them, the State would declare it illegal, sell it to the masses as some type of black market (anti-American in a nationalism sense) and then obtain societal compliance in order to crush it. So is the world we live and thus the proof that no free market does exist and that freedom and liberty are themselves pure fictions and illusions designed to occupy our minds in order to shade us from the truth that we are nothing more than field hands picking cotton in someone else's field! :wink2: The same fearism created by the state over so-called terrorists, so-called communists, global warming, Jesus is coming, etc. is the same fearism used by the state against a true free market. We likely won't get there but understanding that should at the least be instructive even while accepting our realities! :peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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