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<blockquote data-quote="Inthegame" data-source="post: 2549130" data-attributes="member: 37112">Being that you have a system in place that allows carrying company seniority, every one of those 35 off the street hires is fully aware of their position and knows going in they will be continually stepped over by less senior department transfers. That&#039;s equitable to them as they chose that job. Changing the system mid stream is the issue.Objective? How about subjective being that I lived this situation. After serving my sentence in packages, I went to feeders in a classification seniority system, with at least 35 guys ahead of me that I could have leapfrogged had we carried seniority. It was my choice, knowing the consequences.And redlining gets that done, but subjectively you&#039;re using the term &quot;corrected&quot;. There is nothing incorrect about either seniority system. Classification seniority is widespread among crafts throughout union and non-union shops. However, addressing your position, redlining does get the change you think proper, just not in the self serving time frame.Isn&#039;t that rather telling?If an issue is so egregiously &quot;incorrect&quot; wouldn&#039;t the prudent approach be to at minimum fix it eventually?And I hope they stay oblivious to past decisions that are not sound in merit.There&#039;s your subjectivity creeping back in. I know of no local union election that swung either way on this issue.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Inthegame, post: 2549130, member: 37112"] Being that you have a system in place that allows carrying company seniority, every one of those 35 off the street hires is fully aware of their position and knows going in they will be continually stepped over by less senior department transfers. That's equitable to them as they chose that job. [B]Changing the system mid stream is the issue.[/B] Objective? How about subjective being that I lived this situation. After serving my sentence in packages, I went to feeders in a classification seniority system, with at least 35 guys ahead of me that I could have leapfrogged had we carried seniority. It was my choice, knowing the consequences. And redlining gets that done, but subjectively you're using the term "[I]corrected[/I]". There is nothing incorrect about either seniority system. Classification seniority is widespread among crafts throughout union and non-union shops. However, addressing your position, redlining does get the change you think proper, just not in the self serving time frame. Isn't that rather telling? If an issue is so egregiously "incorrect" wouldn't the prudent approach be to at minimum [I]fix[/I] it eventually? And I hope they stay oblivious to past decisions that are not sound in merit. There's your subjectivity creeping back in. I know of no local union election that swung either way on this issue. [/QUOTE]

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