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Message: <blockquote data-quote="104Feeder" data-source="post: 1154456" data-attributes="member: 42554"><p>Well that's kind of the Catch-22. You'd be technically in violation, but not reportable unless you went actually on road (onto public streets). One problem is if you did go on road & were in violation (although your FDT would not show it), you could get caught up in the new "egregious violation" of HOS going into effect July 1st. Here they have always acted like any driving time in a Shifter doesn't count as "on duty, Driving" time. Perhaps getting UPS to account for shifter time as "on duty, Driving" in the FDT would fix the problem. Of course, their OBDR's have always been in technical violation of DOT requirements and FMCSA has never seemed to care.</p></blockquote><p></p>