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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 4009423" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>No, as I already pointed out insurance companies have already negotiated much lower fees with hospital systems.  But if you walk in without insurance you're going to see a jacked up rate.  If you tell them you can't pay that most hospitals will immediately lower the bill considerably.  My stepmother used to go to emergency room a couple of times a year to once every two years or so.  They'd hit my father with a huge bill but he'd tell them he didn't have the money.  They would immediately lower it down quite a bit.  This happened in numerous hospitals in several states.  The hospital I went to didn't negotiate, it was automatic for self pay.  Took the bill from $33k to about $7000.</p></blockquote><p></p>