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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 4010975" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>But it did take Democrats crossing over for Trump to win.  I wouldn't count out Gabbard or Lang.  Gabbard seems like a voice of reason in a field of extreme voices.  Lang may sound awfully good in areas of the country looking for relief.  Especially in normally Democrat areas.  Watched a video of him pointing out reasons that UBI would work.  Sounds reasonable, especially to Democrat voters.  On the other hand if you put up a candidate slamming white men all the time highly unlikely you'll get the moderate vote.  Even if that candidate tones it down the media will say it for him.</p></blockquote><p></p>