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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 5347372" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>I totally understand how you could see the two stances as contradictory. But It's an oversimplified view of the situation that allows one to come to that conclusion. It would probably take a very long post to explain things, and I don't know if you are interested in that. I'll try to give a short answer though. Probably the most important part of the answer is in bold:</p><p></p><p>1) water is clearly necessary for life, masks clearly don't work for the stated purpose. That was clear before pandemic and was only politicized after the fact with fake claims, completely unsupported by any science, that they do. To reiterate, water true, mask lie.</p><p></p><p>2) I'm no fan of regulatory agencies, as explained in another thread where I discussed with [USER=79151]@Bastiatian[/USER] about their constitutionality, because they have morphed into a violation of separation of powers. I think it's sad that OSHA needs to exist, since it's clear employers wouldn't even pretend to care about safety at all if it weren't for the threat of regulatory enforcement. </p><p></p><p>3) and to answer your question "why would you want a company to enforce safety only as you see fit? That only fits your viewpoint?" I don't want the company to enforce safety at all. I want them to provide a safe and healthy workplace inasmuch as they can. Meaning I don't want companies intentionally or negligently trying to force people to work in hazardous conditions by threatening people's jobs for ensuring their own safety. <strong>It's UPS's policy that "I am the person most responsible for my safety". That's all I want, for them to let me do the job in the manner I find safest as it suits my individual needs. </strong>Instead, they fire people for buying a drink when they are thirsty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 5347372, member: 63706"] I totally understand how you could see the two stances as contradictory. But It's an oversimplified view of the situation that allows one to come to that conclusion. It would probably take a very long post to explain things, and I don't know if you are interested in that. I'll try to give a short answer though. Probably the most important part of the answer is in bold: 1) water is clearly necessary for life, masks clearly don't work for the stated purpose. That was clear before pandemic and was only politicized after the fact with fake claims, completely unsupported by any science, that they do. To reiterate, water true, mask lie. 2) I'm no fan of regulatory agencies, as explained in another thread where I discussed with [USER=79151]@Bastiatian[/USER] about their constitutionality, because they have morphed into a violation of separation of powers. I think it's sad that OSHA needs to exist, since it's clear employers wouldn't even pretend to care about safety at all if it weren't for the threat of regulatory enforcement. 3) and to answer your question "why would you want a company to enforce safety only as you see fit? That only fits your viewpoint?" I don't want the company to enforce safety at all. I want them to provide a safe and healthy workplace inasmuch as they can. Meaning I don't want companies intentionally or negligently trying to force people to work in hazardous conditions by threatening people's jobs for ensuring their own safety. [B]It's UPS's policy that "I am the person most responsible for my safety". That's all I want, for them to let me do the job in the manner I find safest as it suits my individual needs. [/B]Instead, they fire people for buying a drink when they are thirsty. [/QUOTE]
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