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<blockquote data-quote="susiedriver" data-source="post: 75371" data-attributes="member: 1848"><p><span style="color: blue">I would believe that would be one hell of a stretch to equate the polarization of red states and blue states in this country to a fascist renewal. You are really reaching now in order to continue supporting your ill thought out position.</span></p><p> </p><p> Who said anything about red & blue states equating to Fascism? Read Griffins thesis. The whole thing, not just the tiny bit you linked to.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="color: blue">I don't believe that either germany or italy had a well established political system that separated</span>(sp)<span style="color: blue"> the powers prior to their conversion. I'm sure you could find many other differences between our country and theirs if you chose to.</span></p><p> </p><p> You keep insisting that the separation of powers that was intended in our constitution is still operable today, I contend that the separation is non-existent. The Supreme Court put the present President in office, in spite of the results of the election, and he ignores the laws set forth by the legislative branch. I think this is not what the Founding Fathers had in mind.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="color: blue">Then your point would have to be that all corporatism is fascism? I would think Mussolini ending up at the end of a noose in the town square of Milan may indicate that he was not always right on the issues of his day?</span></p><p> </p><p> When corporations make the laws in their favor and the government reinforces those laws (tort reform, for example), I would argue that the State and the Corporation exist to each others mutual benefit. This, once again, is not what the Founding Fathers had in mind. Perhaps Mussolinis fate will be shared by those who have hijacked our once proud Republic.</p><p> </p><p> <span style="color: blue">and your point would be that they would have stayed in jail longer if George had not thought he was above the law?</span></p><p><span style="color: blue"></span></p><p><span style="color: blue">This issue is an interesting one. The question I have for your susie are you prepared to die at the hands of these terrorists in order to ensure their civil rights?</span></p><p> </p><p> My point is that is king George would have played by the rules of law, perhaps we could lock up these people up for the rest of their lives.</p><p> </p><p> You ask the wrong question. The proper question should be are you willing to give up your freedoms in order that enemies of the state be incarcerated? My feelings can be summed up by the quote of Patrick Henry: Give me Liberty or give me death; or as Gen. Stark said: Live Free or Die!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiedriver, post: 75371, member: 1848"] [COLOR=blue]I would believe that would be one hell of a stretch to equate the polarization of red states and blue states in this country to a fascist renewal. You are really reaching now in order to continue supporting your ill thought out position.[/COLOR] Who said anything about red & blue states equating to Fascism? Read Griffins thesis. The whole thing, not just the tiny bit you linked to. [COLOR=blue]I don't believe that either germany or italy had a well established political system that separated[/COLOR](sp)[COLOR=blue] the powers prior to their conversion. I'm sure you could find many other differences between our country and theirs if you chose to.[/COLOR] You keep insisting that the separation of powers that was intended in our constitution is still operable today, I contend that the separation is non-existent. The Supreme Court put the present President in office, in spite of the results of the election, and he ignores the laws set forth by the legislative branch. I think this is not what the Founding Fathers had in mind. [COLOR=blue]Then your point would have to be that all corporatism is fascism? I would think Mussolini ending up at the end of a noose in the town square of Milan may indicate that he was not always right on the issues of his day?[/COLOR] When corporations make the laws in their favor and the government reinforces those laws (tort reform, for example), I would argue that the State and the Corporation exist to each others mutual benefit. This, once again, is not what the Founding Fathers had in mind. Perhaps Mussolinis fate will be shared by those who have hijacked our once proud Republic. [COLOR=blue]and your point would be that they would have stayed in jail longer if George had not thought he was above the law? This issue is an interesting one. The question I have for your susie are you prepared to die at the hands of these terrorists in order to ensure their civil rights?[/COLOR] My point is that is king George would have played by the rules of law, perhaps we could lock up these people up for the rest of their lives. You ask the wrong question. The proper question should be are you willing to give up your freedoms in order that enemies of the state be incarcerated? My feelings can be summed up by the quote of Patrick Henry: Give me Liberty or give me death; or as Gen. Stark said: Live Free or Die! [/QUOTE]
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