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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1356746" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Vladimir Lenin and the grand communist experiment of the Soviet Union was not anti-capitalist. Just the opposite, they themselves are capitalists. Here, I'll let Lenin himself explain it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>and</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://libcom.org/forums/theory/lenin-acknowledging-intentional-implementation-state-capitalism-ussr-23032011" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>source</strong></span></a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/nov/25ia.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>source</strong></span></a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/ichtci/11.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong>source</strong></span></a></p><p></p><p>The Soviet Union was never one side of a dualistic conflict between some version of good verses evil. Instead, it was one side of a conflict within capitalism itself, no different than 2 competitors in the same market face off against one another. The Soviet Union was capitalism in the form of State Monopoly Capitalism minus natural rights. Not that the United States was that much better. </p><p></p><p>It was about power as both nations moved into they own phase of imperialism which is the natural progression of any State Monopoly Capitalism. State socialism is nothing more than capitalists as experts using The State as central planner so that edicts backed by the gun can guarantee the outcomes wanted by their own experts. Again, see my post above on socialism and it's founder in Henri de Saint Simon.</p><p></p><p>Thus the Cold War itself was nothing more than a Corporate Warfare sold under the fakery of nationalism. Nationalism being the true abandoning of people and place under the acceptance of a false narrative from which only an oligarchy benefit. It was Political Economy verses Political Economy of which the average folk under either economy gained little.</p><p></p><p>But then Lenin himself also told another truism:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1356746, member: 2189"] Vladimir Lenin and the grand communist experiment of the Soviet Union was not anti-capitalist. Just the opposite, they themselves are capitalists. Here, I'll let Lenin himself explain it. and [URL='http://libcom.org/forums/theory/lenin-acknowledging-intentional-implementation-state-capitalism-ussr-23032011'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]source[/B][/COLOR][/URL] [URL='https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/nov/25ia.htm'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]source[/B][/COLOR][/URL] [URL='https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/ichtci/11.htm'][COLOR=#ff0000][B]source[/B][/COLOR][/URL] The Soviet Union was never one side of a dualistic conflict between some version of good verses evil. Instead, it was one side of a conflict within capitalism itself, no different than 2 competitors in the same market face off against one another. The Soviet Union was capitalism in the form of State Monopoly Capitalism minus natural rights. Not that the United States was that much better. It was about power as both nations moved into they own phase of imperialism which is the natural progression of any State Monopoly Capitalism. State socialism is nothing more than capitalists as experts using The State as central planner so that edicts backed by the gun can guarantee the outcomes wanted by their own experts. Again, see my post above on socialism and it's founder in Henri de Saint Simon. Thus the Cold War itself was nothing more than a Corporate Warfare sold under the fakery of nationalism. Nationalism being the true abandoning of people and place under the acceptance of a false narrative from which only an oligarchy benefit. It was Political Economy verses Political Economy of which the average folk under either economy gained little. But then Lenin himself also told another truism: [/QUOTE]
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