Socks and Trucks!

[Irishman Collins]

Two more examples of failed Contract negotiations by Hoffa and Hall! 1. For around 20 years government has mandated that private vehicles sold in the US must have lap safety belts and shoulder belts to reduce head injuries in collisions. Yet, our Union committee has continually failed to negotiate that UPS immediately replace all vehicles without said safety equipment. Secondly, our Union brain trust, still has been unable to negotiate that UPS socks be paid for by the company. It is ridiculous that the cost of socks seems to be an unachievable benefit for our current Union officials when negotiating our contract. We need new leadership that recognizes the things that UPSERS need for their safety and well being, not what our leaders need for reelection or to protect a "unsustainable" health or pension plan!

 

[BostonBo]

1) I hate the new seat belts. They tear up my shoulder reaching and pulling all day. Lap belts rule. 2) You're making a ton of money to do a job that no other company would pay you to do. Just suck it up, save the receipt, and use it as a tax write off.

 

[Irishman Collins]

Boston, I don't think you realize that we have collective bargaining and that is how we got to where we are currently. I am merely pointing out that our current leaders can't even negotiate the simplest of benefits for us

 

[Inthegame]

Two more examples of failed Contract negotiations by H and hall! 1. For around 20 years government has mandated that private vehicles sold in the US must have lap safety belts and shoulder belts to reduce head injuries in collisions. Yet, our Union committee has continually failed to negotiate that UPS immediately replace all vehicles without said safety equipment. Secondly, our Union brain trust, still has been unable to negotiate that UPS socks be paid for by the company. It is ridiculous that the cost of socks seems to be an unachievable benefit for our current Union officials when negotiating our contract. We need new leadership that recognizes the things that UPSERS need for their safety and well being, not what our leaders need for reelection or to protect a "unsustainable" health or pension plan!

And I almost told you I missed your posts, but then I read it and it all came back to me...

 

[Irishman Collins]

Yes, thanks for reminding me that your favorite drink is kool-aid! Lol!

 

[Wally]

I wear sock that look like hell because they are so old.

 

[Oh Shoot]

1) I hate the new seat belts. They tear up my shoulder reaching and pulling all day. Lap belts rule. 2) You're making a ton of money to do a job that no other company would pay you to do. Just suck it up, save the receipt, and use it as a tax write off.

I dont reach back and grab seatbelt I just put it around steering wheel

 

[upschuck]

Two more examples of failed Contract negotiations by H and hall! 1. For around 20 years government has mandated that private vehicles sold in the US must have lap safety belts and shoulder belts to reduce head injuries in collisions. Yet, our Union committee has continually failed to negotiate that UPS immediately replace all vehicles without said safety equipment. Secondly, our Union brain trust, still has been unable to negotiate that UPS socks be paid for by the company. It is ridiculous that the cost of socks seems to be an unachievable benefit for our current Union officials when negotiating our contract. We need new leadership that recognizes the things that UPSERS need for their safety and well being, not what our leaders need for reelection or to protect a "unsustainable" health or pension plan!

What would you be willing to give up for socks and lap belt?

 

[Bubblehead]

1) I hate the new seat belts. They tear up my shoulder reaching and pulling all day. Lap belts rule.

Lap belt are grossly insufficient and ridiculous for a company of UPS's economic and supposed safety stature.
The existence of these vehicles in our fleet, absent of retrofitting, is an abomination and yet another in a long line of company hypocrisies.

Also, you don't have to reach over your shoulder for the 3 point belt.
It attaches at the seat, where I pass the latch from my left hand to my right, pull outward to achieve some slack and buckle.

 

[Bubblehead]

What would you be willing to give up for socks and lap belt?

Why would we have to give up anything to a company on top of it's game, recording record profits?

 

[upschuck]

Why would we have to give up anything to a company on top of it's game, recording record profits?

They don't give you something extra for nothing. That is not how negotiations work.

 

[Bubblehead]

They don't give you something extra for nothing. That is not how negotiations work.

The Teamster have, they owe us few.

That aside, I disagree.
You negotiate from a position of strength or weakness.
Your assertion implies that the playing field is equal, which seldom the case.

 

[Lead Belly]

I can't afford socks making over 100k. Life is so so so so so so hard.

 

[upschuck]

The Teamster have, they owe us few.

That aside, I disagree.
You negotiate from a position of strength or weakness.
Your assertion implies that the playing field is equal, which seldom the case.

I guarantee you that whatever "concession" you see, that it was part of a bigger "deal", and not stand alone.

 

[Bubblehead]

I can't afford socks making over 100k. Life is so so so so so so hard.

Can you afford to have your face smash into the windshield, then recoil the back of your head into the metal bulkhead, if you're involved in a serious accident in vehicle without a high back chair and 3 point seat belt?

 

[Bubblehead]

I guarantee you that whatever "concession" you see, that it was part of a bigger "deal", and not stand alone.

The "concessions" I've seen were in exchange for higher wages, so we can pay more dues and retreat into a lesser health care plan.

 

[upschuck]

The "concessions" I've seen were in exchange for higher wages, so we can pay more dues and retreat into a lesser health care plan.

Sooooooooooooo, you are complaining about making too much money? My HC got better.

 

[wide load]

I can't believe the amount of people that live in a world of fantasy. Smh!

 

[Bubblehead]

Sooooooooooooo, you are complaining about making too much money? My HC got better.

I'd give it back to erase many of the other concessions....and your health care got better thanks to the Vote No movement, while theirs got worse.
Your welcome.

 

[upschuck]

I'd give it back to erase many of the other concessions.
Your welcome.

How long you got to work here? Let's say 5 more years, so you'd give up $20,000+ so you wouldn't have to pay a $200 deductible/year?