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Someone Tell Me How The Ground "SCAM" Is Any Different Than Any Other Franchise Model
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<blockquote data-quote="MrFedEx" data-source="post: 1132082" data-attributes="member: 12508"><p><strong>Re: Someone Tell Me How The Ground "SCAM" Is Any Different Than Any Other Franchise M</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm right here with your answer. The smell test that determines whether or not workers are employees are not is "degree of control". Now, bbsam and all the rest of them always get on here and spew about how much independence they have, how they are "business partners" (official FedEx term, by the way), and on and on about how it is THEIR business, not Fred's. Most observers, myself included, see FedEx (the corporation) as having a much higher degree of control over everyday operations than these contractors claim. It is in their best interests to do so, by he way. </p><p></p><p>Also, I have never heard any contractor/ISP refer to themselves on here as a "franchisee". If that's what they really are, why not use the actual terminology? I actually checked into becoming a McDonald's franchisee a few years ago, and found that for one, I didn't have nearly enough capital, and two, that even though it would have been "my" restaurant, that it was pretty clear who was really running the show. My store, like all McDonald's, had to conform to a strict code ensuring that it meets some very rigid standards set by the corporation. Are you comparing the Ground business model to McDonald's and their set-up? </p><p></p><p>Or, are you comparing it to someone like myself, who is a true independent contractor affiliated with a large real estate company? I set my own hours, and do whatever I want, as long as it is legal, and conforms with local real estate law and the standards set by my parent firm. If I want to take 3 weeks off and go to Mexico, I do it. The company cannot say anything or do anything about it. </p><p></p><p>So, how is it over at Ground? Employees are scheduled, they must wear the company uniform and rigidly conform to company policies and procedures. In fact, I don't see a whole lot of differences between the Express courier job and the Ground driver job, except they are a non-employee and I am. From what I hear, FedEx managers (employees) rigidly control the work environment and corporate standards, and they tell contractors who to get rid of when there are problems. Who is the real "boss" at Ground, anyway?</p><p></p><p>As vantexan mentioned, you don't see other huge companies lobbying and/or fighting in court over whether or not their workers are "employees". Why is that? For example, I have never seen McDonald's in court fighting similar charges. Again, why is that if Ground is a classic franchisee model?</p><p></p><p>The simple answer is that Ground doesn't fit the classic franchisee model, and never will. Keep trying, OK?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrFedEx, post: 1132082, member: 12508"] [b]Re: Someone Tell Me How The Ground "SCAM" Is Any Different Than Any Other Franchise M[/b] I'm right here with your answer. The smell test that determines whether or not workers are employees are not is "degree of control". Now, bbsam and all the rest of them always get on here and spew about how much independence they have, how they are "business partners" (official FedEx term, by the way), and on and on about how it is THEIR business, not Fred's. Most observers, myself included, see FedEx (the corporation) as having a much higher degree of control over everyday operations than these contractors claim. It is in their best interests to do so, by he way. Also, I have never heard any contractor/ISP refer to themselves on here as a "franchisee". If that's what they really are, why not use the actual terminology? I actually checked into becoming a McDonald's franchisee a few years ago, and found that for one, I didn't have nearly enough capital, and two, that even though it would have been "my" restaurant, that it was pretty clear who was really running the show. My store, like all McDonald's, had to conform to a strict code ensuring that it meets some very rigid standards set by the corporation. Are you comparing the Ground business model to McDonald's and their set-up? Or, are you comparing it to someone like myself, who is a true independent contractor affiliated with a large real estate company? I set my own hours, and do whatever I want, as long as it is legal, and conforms with local real estate law and the standards set by my parent firm. If I want to take 3 weeks off and go to Mexico, I do it. The company cannot say anything or do anything about it. So, how is it over at Ground? Employees are scheduled, they must wear the company uniform and rigidly conform to company policies and procedures. In fact, I don't see a whole lot of differences between the Express courier job and the Ground driver job, except they are a non-employee and I am. From what I hear, FedEx managers (employees) rigidly control the work environment and corporate standards, and they tell contractors who to get rid of when there are problems. Who is the real "boss" at Ground, anyway? As vantexan mentioned, you don't see other huge companies lobbying and/or fighting in court over whether or not their workers are "employees". Why is that? For example, I have never seen McDonald's in court fighting similar charges. Again, why is that if Ground is a classic franchisee model? The simple answer is that Ground doesn't fit the classic franchisee model, and never will. Keep trying, OK? [/QUOTE]
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