Southwest Package Rider

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by 542thruNthru, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Everyone else has a thread so I though I'd start one for us.

    I've seen it and it has some good changes and if the Master does pass I feel confident that RPCDs will not have to worry about being " laid off" on Mondays.
     
  2. Thank you Mason.....
     
  3. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

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  4. dogs.bite.me

    dogs.bite.me Active Member

    Agreed
     
  5. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

    Funny I been saying that all along. The 22.4 is also a upgrade from the cover driver language and most of all the retiree language gets a huge bump if all the contracts pass. It’s important to take care of our retirees in the Southwest because they have taken care of us.
     
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  6. dogs.bite.me

    dogs.bite.me Active Member

    It is an upgrade to TCD language.

    I was a TCD for 5 years. I wish I had those 5 years of ft credit to my pension benefits.
     
  7. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

    That was my whole point in the contract boogie man thread.
     
  8. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    The point still remains that I don't agree with 22.4s and there really shouldn't be a reason for this language. I'm just happy to know that bases have been covered if this NMA passes.
     
  9. Smashmouth

    Smashmouth Active Member


    Is that the same confidence you had when they created the cover driver language and said it was only going to be to cover vacations, and illnesses, but somehow found a way to have part timers working as cover drivers for years. Everyday they violated the contract, I would file for that 1 day of seniority to make me a full time driver...took 5 years working full time hours before they made me full time. So if you think for one second this company wont twist this language and do exactly what they want to save money, then you havent worked for UPS long enough!
     
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  10. Kanovic

    Kanovic My job is fun

    Did you ask your BA?
     
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  11. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    I never supported the creation of PT covers but workday-workweek language is different then cover driver language.
     
  12. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

    Because we been using Cover drivers who are similar to the 22.4 that language doesn’t scare me like other areas. They could have rolled over loads this contract and didn’t. The 8 hour 5 consecutive protection has always been the key. The retiree language and taken care of them in the Southwest is HUGE. A no vote could take away and screw them. What are your feelings on that?
     
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  13. dogs.bite.me

    dogs.bite.me Active Member

    Don’t use scare tactics. They don’t work.
     
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  14. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

    It’s not a scare tactic. It’s a reality, know the difference.
     
  15. dogs.bite.me

    dogs.bite.me Active Member

    Taking stuff away from a contract that is voted down.

    Doesn’t seem like reality, unless company wanted a strike which they dont
     
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  16. eats packages

    eats packages Tetris Master

    It's not reality. It's a scare tactic, know the difference.

    They did roll over loads out of monday, tons of it, from October to May. Paying drivers and PTers alike who (as a whole) had a lower progression wage than most M-F drivers.
    A no vote will not lead to negative effects, keep in mind that a split vote is very likely, no on the NMA and yes on the regional.
     
  17. Just A UPS Guy

    Just A UPS Guy Active Member

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  18. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

    Obvioulsy you did not learn from Z’s mistakes last contract.
     
  19. LagunaBrown

    LagunaBrown Well-Known Member

    And full time drivers got to choose to go home or work and get paid if they rolled work over. They did not get laid off. This is the Southwest thread buddy.
     
  20. 542thruNthru

    542thruNthru Well-Known Member

    Look I agree the retiree language is great and the healthcare improvements are amazing for them.

    The fact still remains that again we are going to screw the guys behind us to take care our ourselves. The same thing we seem to be doing in almost every contract before.

    You're right the retiree language could go away if we vote no but the opposite is also true. It could remain and we could gain in other areas.

    I don't agree with 22.4. This company is doing great and it using pension woes/gains to help push it through in my mind.

    It's not a scare tactic. Its a legitimate question. It could go away of course it could not also.
     
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