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<blockquote data-quote="newfie" data-source="post: 5138675" data-attributes="member: 58700">I think we agree .the problem i have is that these charges and that argument that the government is making is a clear violation of our constitutionally mandated rights and a clear double standard as to what has happened during the riots. Those folks who attacked and burned that police station should have gotten the same charges. we have a right to free speech.&nbsp; a bunch of bubba&#039;s talking <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2&nbsp; &nbsp; :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> on a chat page about shutting down the government is not the standard required to prove conspiracy. If it was we&#039;d all be going to jail everytime we say we need to fight the government.now if they plotted and planned and had detailed plans to do so and then took action they had planned to disrupt that process then the government has a legitimate charge of conspiracy. a bunch of bubba&#039;s wandering into the capital and running around and getting selfies is not an insurrection and is not a threat to our government processes. the last time I checked the taxpayers own the capital.&nbsp; to me the idea that citizens can get charged with tresspassing for inspecting something we own is asinine.&nbsp; one of those charged was on tucker last night.&nbsp; He seems believable when he denies any of that . He&#039;s an old retired navy veteran and may have been charged by heresay.&nbsp; time will tell. I love what he said about the charges.conspiracy is something they charge you with when they want to detain you and dont know what to charge you with.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="newfie, post: 5138675, member: 58700"] I think we agree . the problem i have is that these charges and that argument that the government is making is a clear violation of our constitutionally mandated rights and a clear double standard as to what has happened during the riots. Those folks who attacked and burned that police station should have gotten the same charges. we have a right to free speech. a bunch of bubba's talking :censored: on a chat page about shutting down the government is not the standard required to prove conspiracy. If it was we'd all be going to jail everytime we say we need to fight the government. now if they plotted and planned and had detailed plans to do so and then took action they had planned to disrupt that process then the government has a legitimate charge of conspiracy. a bunch of bubba's wandering into the capital and running around and getting selfies is not an insurrection and is not a threat to our government processes. the last time I checked the taxpayers own the capital. to me the idea that citizens can get charged with tresspassing for inspecting something we own is asinine. one of those charged was on tucker last night. He seems believable when he denies any of that . He's an old retired navy veteran and may have been charged by heresay. time will tell. I love what he said about the charges. conspiracy is something they charge you with when they want to detain you and dont know what to charge you with. [/QUOTE]

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