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<blockquote data-quote="twoweeled" data-source="post: 3507623" data-attributes="member: 27108"><p>Let me try and explain my view point. Better to burn $35K, or work and make $52K? </p><p>That appears to assume, you would be on strike for maybe 8 months? 8X$4,300=$34,400. If you worked those 8 months, you would make those $34,000. I don't see that $52,000 applying here. I could be missing something? </p><p>I don't see a strike going 8 months. Realistically, I don't see a strike at all! It was a strike authorization vote. I doubt our majority ever sees Hoffa actually EVER calling a strike. I think this vote only showed a majority of unhappy people. The vote was needed for this. Had we "not" been able to muster numbers to authorize Hoffa to call a strike, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE!! Put a fork in us, and anything we wanted. We would've confirmed undoubtedly, we didn't have the backbone or potential commitment to possibly strike. </p><p>This vote in my opinion, just kept us in the game. I do not feel UPS is the least bit spooked about Hoffa ever calling a strike. But UPS has been notified, there are more than a few employees fed up. (sorry about the tangent)</p><p>If we aren't willing to risk losing something in order to gain something in the long run, UPS will gain momentum every contract, and push us back further. More than a snowball effect, but a runaway train that is snowballing. UPS is not interested in what is fair. Fair plays no part in this. There is one pie in this game. We are interested in getting as much as we can, and UPS is doing the same. Unfortunately, UPS is a lot better organized than we are. </p><p>The point is, if we knuckle under every contract, we lose more than monetarily in the long run. We lose momentum. We lose power. We become fearful. We lose respect from the company. We command nothing! The company each contract, gains everything we lose, ie momentum, power and respect and they instill fear. Just like the pie. Whatever one side loses, the other side gains. The company "has to know" we will fight them without flinching, when we are wronged or feel cheated. UPS has to feel, if they try and screw us, there will be a price to pay. </p><p>In short (yeah, I know it ain't short), when/if you take into account things lost, and will be lost because of a display of weakness (ie small raises relative to company profits. Contractual verbiage related to keeping your job. changes in healthcare coverage. Much higher cost in retirement healthcare. The ability to limit hours worked to preserve your health for retirement) Then "yes", you could very well end up better off, losing the $35,000. </p><p>That's why I just responded with: "it's so much deeper than that". LOL! Sorry! My thoughts</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="twoweeled, post: 3507623, member: 27108"] Let me try and explain my view point. Better to burn $35K, or work and make $52K? That appears to assume, you would be on strike for maybe 8 months? 8X$4,300=$34,400. If you worked those 8 months, you would make those $34,000. I don't see that $52,000 applying here. I could be missing something? I don't see a strike going 8 months. Realistically, I don't see a strike at all! It was a strike authorization vote. I doubt our majority ever sees Hoffa actually EVER calling a strike. I think this vote only showed a majority of unhappy people. The vote was needed for this. Had we "not" been able to muster numbers to authorize Hoffa to call a strike, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE!! Put a fork in us, and anything we wanted. We would've confirmed undoubtedly, we didn't have the backbone or potential commitment to possibly strike. This vote in my opinion, just kept us in the game. I do not feel UPS is the least bit spooked about Hoffa ever calling a strike. But UPS has been notified, there are more than a few employees fed up. (sorry about the tangent) If we aren't willing to risk losing something in order to gain something in the long run, UPS will gain momentum every contract, and push us back further. More than a snowball effect, but a runaway train that is snowballing. UPS is not interested in what is fair. Fair plays no part in this. There is one pie in this game. We are interested in getting as much as we can, and UPS is doing the same. Unfortunately, UPS is a lot better organized than we are. The point is, if we knuckle under every contract, we lose more than monetarily in the long run. We lose momentum. We lose power. We become fearful. We lose respect from the company. We command nothing! The company each contract, gains everything we lose, ie momentum, power and respect and they instill fear. Just like the pie. Whatever one side loses, the other side gains. The company "has to know" we will fight them without flinching, when we are wronged or feel cheated. UPS has to feel, if they try and screw us, there will be a price to pay. In short (yeah, I know it ain't short), when/if you take into account things lost, and will be lost because of a display of weakness (ie small raises relative to company profits. Contractual verbiage related to keeping your job. changes in healthcare coverage. Much higher cost in retirement healthcare. The ability to limit hours worked to preserve your health for retirement) Then "yes", you could very well end up better off, losing the $35,000. That's why I just responded with: "it's so much deeper than that". LOL! Sorry! My thoughts [/QUOTE]
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