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<blockquote data-quote="JonFrum" data-source="post: 772000" data-attributes="member: 18044"><p>Some Management posters contend that during Contract negotiations, UPS determines the amount of money it is willing to give, and the Teamsters divide it up amongst full-timers, part-timers, Pension funds, and Health & Welfare funds as they alone see fit.</p><p> </p><p>This has long been an article of faith in Management's elaborate mythology, but it can't be right, because the Law requires both sides to actively bargain in good faith. Both sides submit proposals, and then both sides submit counter proposals. Neither side is required to give in, but they both must seriously consider the other side's proposals and react constructively to them. Ultimately, the Contract that results is, taken as a whole, agreed to by both sides. Indeed, usually highly recommended by both sides.</p><p> </p><p>The idea of UPS unilaterally dictating the wage package, take it or leave it, would trigger an Unfair Labor Practice charge, and UPS would be found guilty of failing to "bargain in good faith."</p><p> </p><p>If the allegation is that the part-time wage rates are kept low because the Teamsters never try to raise them, then would someone who makes that charge please post the Union and Management wage proposals and counter-proposals for the Contracts going back to 1982 so we can all know what you claim to know.</p><p> </p><p>From the Union perspective, the Law treats an ULP strike much more favorably than a monetary strike, so there is a limit to how hard a Union can push to get higher wages. If UPS negotiators are insistant that the part-timers are to be paid "minimum wage" or something close to it year after year, the Teamsters may have to accept that if UPS has given in somewhere else. Or take us out on a monetary strike.</p><p> </p><p>The only decision the Teamsters have about dividing up the money is how much of the annual <u>raise</u> in Pension and H & W contributions will be allocated to Pension, and how much to H & W. So instead of a 50/50 split, they might split the dollar or so 60/40 or 40/60 or whatever.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JonFrum, post: 772000, member: 18044"] Some Management posters contend that during Contract negotiations, UPS determines the amount of money it is willing to give, and the Teamsters divide it up amongst full-timers, part-timers, Pension funds, and Health & Welfare funds as they alone see fit. This has long been an article of faith in Management's elaborate mythology, but it can't be right, because the Law requires both sides to actively bargain in good faith. Both sides submit proposals, and then both sides submit counter proposals. Neither side is required to give in, but they both must seriously consider the other side's proposals and react constructively to them. Ultimately, the Contract that results is, taken as a whole, agreed to by both sides. Indeed, usually highly recommended by both sides. The idea of UPS unilaterally dictating the wage package, take it or leave it, would trigger an Unfair Labor Practice charge, and UPS would be found guilty of failing to "bargain in good faith." If the allegation is that the part-time wage rates are kept low because the Teamsters never try to raise them, then would someone who makes that charge please post the Union and Management wage proposals and counter-proposals for the Contracts going back to 1982 so we can all know what you claim to know. From the Union perspective, the Law treats an ULP strike much more favorably than a monetary strike, so there is a limit to how hard a Union can push to get higher wages. If UPS negotiators are insistant that the part-timers are to be paid "minimum wage" or something close to it year after year, the Teamsters may have to accept that if UPS has given in somewhere else. Or take us out on a monetary strike. The only decision the Teamsters have about dividing up the money is how much of the annual [U]raise[/U] in Pension and H & W contributions will be allocated to Pension, and how much to H & W. So instead of a 50/50 split, they might split the dollar or so 60/40 or 40/60 or whatever. [/QUOTE]
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