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<blockquote data-quote="Catatonic" data-source="post: 772136" data-attributes="member: 7966"><p>Whatever ... I am tiring of this thread.</p><p>I have discussed this with certain people involved in the process. They have/had no reason to to deceive me.</p><p>The negotiations are behind the scenes, never exposed to the public ... UPS announces it and the Union presents to the members.</p><p>UPS plays along with the game because the Union officials have to be elected (political process) and they need to be able to save face and flow with the reaction from the members. Carey was one exception to this way of doing business. He did not bargain in good faith and lied to the UPS negotiators (at least from what I was told).</p><p></p><p>These discussions are going nowhere, people can use their own analysis to believe what they believe. </p><p>One thing is certain, nobody on BC has any idea how these negotiations actually work (including me) but I do tend to believe what I was told by actual people involved.</p><p></p><p>I guess we can agree to disagree. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Catatonic, post: 772136, member: 7966"] Whatever ... I am tiring of this thread. I have discussed this with certain people involved in the process. They have/had no reason to to deceive me. The negotiations are behind the scenes, never exposed to the public ... UPS announces it and the Union presents to the members. UPS plays along with the game because the Union officials have to be elected (political process) and they need to be able to save face and flow with the reaction from the members. Carey was one exception to this way of doing business. He did not bargain in good faith and lied to the UPS negotiators (at least from what I was told). These discussions are going nowhere, people can use their own analysis to believe what they believe. One thing is certain, nobody on BC has any idea how these negotiations actually work (including me) but I do tend to believe what I was told by actual people involved. I guess we can agree to disagree. :peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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