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<blockquote data-quote="BrownShark" data-source="post: 318922" data-attributes="member: 12148"><p><strong>Re: Stupidvisors working...</strong></p><p></p><p>TIEGUY,</p><p> </p><p>One thing that amazes me about you is the level of naivete about you. you try to sound intelligent because you post something, yet, each has no legitimate substance.</p><p> </p><p>You claim to know about history, I am about to demonstrate some to you using your logic.</p><p> </p><p>You said:</p><p><span style="color: black">The Bush administration likes to use WWII as a comparable to the war in IRAQ or the greater exageration, The war on terror. However, the only real comparative between the war in iraq and WWII is the methodology used to sell the war to people (AMERICANS) like you.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">Its clear from your written words that you took the line, hook and sinker.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">Let me clue you in to a little something from the Third Riech. It comes from a time in history, where a man took his country on a "global war" along with an ideology of christianity as a guide. This man used his media to sell this idea everyday on the radio, using repetitive boasts about success and victory for the homeland. His exact words are being displayed today by conservative radio and tv hosts each and everyday to complete this sale. You clearly have invested all you have into those ideals.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">But where did they come from?? Who would propagate such a rouse??</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">It was Hermann Goering, the #2 man in the Third Reich. The propaganda minister of the Nazi party. During his trial at Nuremburg, he spoke endlessly about making the citizens of Germany buy into a global war using not only patriotism but religion as a tool.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #000000">He said this:</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: red">“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”</span></p><p><span style="color: red">~Hermann Goering~</span></p><p> </p><p>You called the poster a "pacifist" and made references of pacifism to other posters. You talk about defending the homeland as the Nazis did on a daily basis. The Bush administration uses many propaganda tools to sell to guys like you in order to sell the war, you see, its the morons like yourself who will repeat them to others in a staunch defense of the action. Patriotism is always attacked first, just as you have. Bill Orielly, Sean Hannity, Rush Limpbaugh and the others atack peoples patriotism each and everyday and guys like you eat it up! Makes you feel <em>Real Good</em>!! "Im a proud american!!"</p><p> </p><p>Thats suppose to make you feel better?? Not really, when you look at all the facts about the war.</p><p> </p><p>"Better to fight them there than fight them here", "Freedom isnt free", "we will wipe out the terrorists"...etc etc..</p><p> </p><p>You are clueless to the level of propaganda you have been sold. </p><p> </p><p>Of all the endless crr*p you posted, NOT ONE WAS connected to Iraq. Yet you boldly support the effort there even though over 250K civilians have been killed since our liberation of the country. Over 10 million have fled the country into neighboring countries to flee the violence and religious bloodshed.</p><p> </p><p>The premise of the war has changed several times, people like you change along with it because the rhetoric used to sell it makes you feel good about yourself as an american.</p><p> </p><p>So did the German citizens.</p><p> </p><p>Rah rah rah, red white and blue, the jokes on you.</p><p> </p><p>We are the laughing stock of the world, our credibility in the world has been reduced, and for what?</p><p> </p><p>To make Iraq the largest privatized war in history of mankind? To waste almost a trillion dollars and cost us 1000 dead soldiers every year of war?</p><p> </p><p>We broke a country and we have no way of repairing it. We didnt go there to be a global police so our troops can walk the streets directing traffic or handing out canday bars to kids. We dont have the troops to leave there for years separating one religious faction from the other.</p><p> </p><p>We awoke a religious hatred that has existed for hundreds of years, and to believe that merely sending in more troops is going to fix that is naive at best.</p><p> </p><p>We are sending our young men and women to die for a cause unjust and totally unrelated to global terror.</p><p> </p><p>Indeed, there is violence in Iraq, but its not global terrorist, its a nations citizens telling us to GET THE <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> OUT! The same as we would do if we were ever occupied by a foriegn fighting force.</p><p> </p><p>The war in Iraq wont end anytime soon. People like you and the Bush administration wont let that happen, because then, we would have to admit we were wrong.</p><p> </p><p>Better to send our men and women on 4 and 5 tours until they are all killed and our equiptment wasted.</p><p> </p><p>Get a clue Tieguy, you want history , im your man. You want to sound intelligent, <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />.</p><p> </p><p>That will suffice.</p><p> </p><p>Peace.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownShark, post: 318922, member: 12148"] [b]Re: Stupidvisors working...[/b] TIEGUY, One thing that amazes me about you is the level of naivete about you. you try to sound intelligent because you post something, yet, each has no legitimate substance. You claim to know about history, I am about to demonstrate some to you using your logic. You said: [COLOR=black]The Bush administration likes to use WWII as a comparable to the war in IRAQ or the greater exageration, The war on terror. However, the only real comparative between the war in iraq and WWII is the methodology used to sell the war to people (AMERICANS) like you.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Its clear from your written words that you took the line, hook and sinker.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Let me clue you in to a little something from the Third Riech. It comes from a time in history, where a man took his country on a "global war" along with an ideology of christianity as a guide. This man used his media to sell this idea everyday on the radio, using repetitive boasts about success and victory for the homeland. His exact words are being displayed today by conservative radio and tv hosts each and everyday to complete this sale. You clearly have invested all you have into those ideals.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]But where did they come from?? Who would propagate such a rouse??[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]It was Hermann Goering, the #2 man in the Third Reich. The propaganda minister of the Nazi party. During his trial at Nuremburg, he spoke endlessly about making the citizens of Germany buy into a global war using not only patriotism but religion as a tool.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]He said this:[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]~Hermann Goering~[/COLOR] You called the poster a "pacifist" and made references of pacifism to other posters. You talk about defending the homeland as the Nazis did on a daily basis. The Bush administration uses many propaganda tools to sell to guys like you in order to sell the war, you see, its the morons like yourself who will repeat them to others in a staunch defense of the action. Patriotism is always attacked first, just as you have. Bill Orielly, Sean Hannity, Rush Limpbaugh and the others atack peoples patriotism each and everyday and guys like you eat it up! Makes you feel [I]Real Good[/I]!! "Im a proud american!!" Thats suppose to make you feel better?? Not really, when you look at all the facts about the war. "Better to fight them there than fight them here", "Freedom isnt free", "we will wipe out the terrorists"...etc etc.. You are clueless to the level of propaganda you have been sold. Of all the endless crr*p you posted, NOT ONE WAS connected to Iraq. Yet you boldly support the effort there even though over 250K civilians have been killed since our liberation of the country. Over 10 million have fled the country into neighboring countries to flee the violence and religious bloodshed. The premise of the war has changed several times, people like you change along with it because the rhetoric used to sell it makes you feel good about yourself as an american. So did the German citizens. Rah rah rah, red white and blue, the jokes on you. We are the laughing stock of the world, our credibility in the world has been reduced, and for what? To make Iraq the largest privatized war in history of mankind? To waste almost a trillion dollars and cost us 1000 dead soldiers every year of war? We broke a country and we have no way of repairing it. We didnt go there to be a global police so our troops can walk the streets directing traffic or handing out canday bars to kids. We dont have the troops to leave there for years separating one religious faction from the other. We awoke a religious hatred that has existed for hundreds of years, and to believe that merely sending in more troops is going to fix that is naive at best. We are sending our young men and women to die for a cause unjust and totally unrelated to global terror. Indeed, there is violence in Iraq, but its not global terrorist, its a nations citizens telling us to GET THE :censored: OUT! The same as we would do if we were ever occupied by a foriegn fighting force. The war in Iraq wont end anytime soon. People like you and the Bush administration wont let that happen, because then, we would have to admit we were wrong. Better to send our men and women on 4 and 5 tours until they are all killed and our equiptment wasted. Get a clue Tieguy, you want history , im your man. You want to sound intelligent, :censored:. That will suffice. Peace.:peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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