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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 321295" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>It got discussed this morning on Meet the Press when Russert interviewed CIA Director Gen. Hayden. Hayden pointed out this operation was done almost exclusively by Iraqi forces and that Maliki only informed the US once their operations were underway. Seems like from what I heard the Iraqi's picked up their own ball and ran with it. That's a good thing. Let them settle their own situation.</p><p> </p><p>Hayden also pointed out that this operation went a long way in re-uniting Southern Iraq and the Basrah area with Bagdhad. Maliki called the Madhi army (Shi'a islam) worse than Al Qaeda and Maliki is also of Shi'a islam which is of Persian (Iran) origin. Al Qaeda as we know is Sunni which is Arab origin but the comparison was interesting none the less IMO.</p><p> </p><p>Just a side note from a Sci-Fi angle that I always found interesting. The name Madhi in Shia Islam relates to a belief in a type of coming deliever or Messiah in a sense. </p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi</span></a></p><p> </p><p>In the Sci-fi channel movie Dune, the hero was known by the name Mahdi (Mohadeeb in the original 1980's movie version)and I always found that and the close comparison of spice malenge to oil, the Fremen to islamic peoples and the planet Dune to the Middle East itself very interesting. Even in both movie versions the end result of the Paul Atreides character fulfilling a Madhi archatype persona was always so interesting to me. It was as if the late Frank Herbert was fore shadowing a type of thing to come.</p><p> </p><p>Sci-Fi has a canny nack for taking earthly situations and transposing them to off world places in order to give the viewer a different look without disrupting pre-concieved notions or judgements. If one is open to some clarity and has some basic knowledge of customs or beliefs, a connection is made! Star Wars is another film loaded with regilous (thank you Joseph Campbell) and even political symbolism.</p><p> </p><p>Another alltime fav of mine is the 60's sci-fi Fahrenheit 451 which is about a society without books. A remake is underway as we speak and I hope it's as good as the original! Now if they would just do a movie of Atlas Shrugged to go alone with The Fountainhead!</p><p> </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p><p> </p><p>BTW: If any of you like music and enjoy a good family movie with a good human story, <strong>August Rush</strong> is my must see movie suggestion!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 321295, member: 2189"] It got discussed this morning on Meet the Press when Russert interviewed CIA Director Gen. Hayden. Hayden pointed out this operation was done almost exclusively by Iraqi forces and that Maliki only informed the US once their operations were underway. Seems like from what I heard the Iraqi's picked up their own ball and ran with it. That's a good thing. Let them settle their own situation. Hayden also pointed out that this operation went a long way in re-uniting Southern Iraq and the Basrah area with Bagdhad. Maliki called the Madhi army (Shi'a islam) worse than Al Qaeda and Maliki is also of Shi'a islam which is of Persian (Iran) origin. Al Qaeda as we know is Sunni which is Arab origin but the comparison was interesting none the less IMO. Just a side note from a Sci-Fi angle that I always found interesting. The name Madhi in Shia Islam relates to a belief in a type of coming deliever or Messiah in a sense. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi"][COLOR=red]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi[/COLOR][/URL] In the Sci-fi channel movie Dune, the hero was known by the name Mahdi (Mohadeeb in the original 1980's movie version)and I always found that and the close comparison of spice malenge to oil, the Fremen to islamic peoples and the planet Dune to the Middle East itself very interesting. Even in both movie versions the end result of the Paul Atreides character fulfilling a Madhi archatype persona was always so interesting to me. It was as if the late Frank Herbert was fore shadowing a type of thing to come. Sci-Fi has a canny nack for taking earthly situations and transposing them to off world places in order to give the viewer a different look without disrupting pre-concieved notions or judgements. If one is open to some clarity and has some basic knowledge of customs or beliefs, a connection is made! Star Wars is another film loaded with regilous (thank you Joseph Campbell) and even political symbolism. Another alltime fav of mine is the 60's sci-fi Fahrenheit 451 which is about a society without books. A remake is underway as we speak and I hope it's as good as the original! Now if they would just do a movie of Atlas Shrugged to go alone with The Fountainhead! :peaceful: BTW: If any of you like music and enjoy a good family movie with a good human story, [B]August Rush[/B] is my must see movie suggestion! [/QUOTE]
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