Surepost changes due soon?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by 10 point, Jul 13, 2014.

  1. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    If the company has 120 days from ratification to implement Surepost changes are those due around the 25th of July?
    Any info out there?
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    They have already started.

    Resident know-it-all.
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  3. ChickenLegs

    ChickenLegs Safety Expert

    That is correct. The changes started awhile ago, but may be different in other areas.
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  4. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    What changes have you noticed? What still needs to be changed in your location?
  5. It's changing already. You will see it totally go into effect and it will be so busy that we won't know what to do. Watch.
  6. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    I was looking for some examples. As far as I know there are three things that can change. Anything that weighs 10 lbs., close proximity, and 3 cubic feet in size.
  7. Notretiredyet

    Notretiredyet Active Member

    The thing most will notice is that the mailman will start waving at you again. Anything over 3 cubic ft and 10lbs now always goes on a package car for delivery. Every time I cross paths with a postal employee they always complain about del boxes, esp at Xmas.Maybe a route or two can be added due to increased volume. But I'm not holding my breath.
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  8. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    Also, 500 new 22.3 jobs are suppose to be in the first year of contract, which should be Aug 1. Anybody see these happening?
  9. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    Nothing here yet.
  10. fres431

    fres431 Active Member

    Rumor has it in California that the Orion guys are telling both centers in my hub they want 10 more drivers per center hired in august. The division managers rebuttal was I can train them quick enough Orion guy said I don't care hire em..that would make 30-35 full timers this year.. Last 5 weeks they been taking 2 a week..I know they training feeder drivers in Lodi Modesto area cuz amazon

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  11. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    I doubt the ORION guys have that much power. Here they were FT/PT sups on a temporary assignment.
  12. worldwide

    worldwide Active Member

    why anything over 3 cubic feet? UPS is implementing dimensional weight on all ground packages, including SurePost, starting Dec 26. As an example, a package that is 12x12x12 is now priced at its actual weight. Once the new dimensional weight rules go into effect, that size package will dim out at 9 lbs. Think of how many 12 cube boxes out there weigh 3 - 7 lbs. You think customers will pay 9 lbs for that just to get UPS service?

    I would expect that many lighter weight packages will be diverting to Priority Mail, especially in light of the announcement that the USPS is implementing a price DECREASE on Priority Mail in September. If your route is mainly residential deliveries expect some changes in 2015...
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  13. 710 steward

    710 steward Active Member

    Orion guys are all IE and they unfortunately run the show. My guess is that's correct.
  14. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    Maybe in your neck of the woods, not here. One was a FT Sup for Night time air driver/carwash. After he retired, they put a PT sup in that position.
  15. Harry Manback

    Harry Manback Robot Extraordinaire

    There's a guy in the other center in my building ( we have two) that talks to himself a lot. He's schizophrenic.

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  16. Gumby

    Gumby *

    Might be , the only good answer....he gets all day
  17. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    I thought commercial pkgs are no longer supposed to be del by the P.O....only residentual now.

    Who's watching that and where are the reports to pull?
  18. 710 steward

    710 steward Active Member

    That's awesome. I have often said our sups couldn't run the local McDonald's. They wouldn't know the difference between a Big Mac and a Quarter Pounder. It's too bad they can't throw chicken feed onto a keyboard and let a chicken run the computer.
  19. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    Not all are IE. I know one and he isn't even a supe anymore by his own doing. Hope you dont get that one.
  20. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    I guess we'll have to start dumping the bags to see if they're still processing commercial stops thru Surepost.