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<blockquote data-quote="Analbumcover" data-source="post: 4965571" data-attributes="member: 63725">As much as I believe the Biden Administration&#039;s foreign policy is an incoherent mess in general, this doesn&#039;t fall entirely in Action Joe&#039;s lap. His bumbling withdrawal is just the icing on the cake. This is the legacy of the neocons and their attempts at nation building and regime change to create Greater George Bushistan. Pump billions of dollars in aid and military technology to a populace that doesn&#039;t want us there and has no faith or vested interest in supporting their new &quot;democratic&quot; government (which was corrupt as hell) and you have all the ingredients for a nation that will collapse the second we leave.Remember Iraq in 2014 when ISIS overran half the country while the American-supplied Iraqi Army didn&#039;t fight back?&nbsp; This part of the world is tribal in nature and has been for millennia. Most of the Afghani soldiers returned home to be with their families or tribe instead of fighting and dying for a corrupt American-funded government that either couldn&#039;t or wouldn&#039;t supply them with food and payment. We throw money, Democracy, the New York Yankees and Jesus at these people and expect it to just magically work because the State Dept. said so.&nbsp; This sort of nation building is foreign policy arrogance at its grandest (or worst).Go read Peter VanBuren&#039;s book &quot;We Meant Well.&quot;&nbsp; It&#039;s about Iraq but you can draw many of the same parallels.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Analbumcover, post: 4965571, member: 63725"] As much as I believe the Biden Administration's foreign policy is an incoherent mess in general, this doesn't fall entirely in Action Joe's lap. His bumbling withdrawal is just the icing on the cake. This is the legacy of the neocons and their attempts at nation building and regime change to create Greater George Bushistan. Pump billions of dollars in aid and military technology to a populace that doesn't want us there and has no faith or vested interest in supporting their new "democratic" government (which was corrupt as hell) and you have all the ingredients for a nation that will collapse the second we leave. Remember Iraq in 2014 when ISIS overran half the country while the American-supplied Iraqi Army didn't fight back? This part of the world is tribal in nature and has been for millennia. Most of the Afghani soldiers returned home to be with their families or tribe instead of fighting and dying for a corrupt American-funded government that either couldn't or wouldn't supply them with food and payment. We throw money, Democracy, the New York Yankees and Jesus at these people and expect it to just magically work because the State Dept. said so. This sort of nation building is foreign policy arrogance at its grandest (or worst). Go read Peter VanBuren's book "We Meant Well." It's about Iraq but you can draw many of the same parallels. [/QUOTE]

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