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<blockquote data-quote="brownIEman" data-source="post: 968666" data-attributes="member: 14596"><p>The meeting on July 31 was between both sides and the Federal Mediators. At the end of that meeting, both sides agreed to return to the negotiating table on Aug. 1, and the IBT agreed to postpone the strike till Aug 4. There was no handshake agreement on a contract on July 31. Whoever gave you that information is mis-informed or making it up. They negotiated thoughout that weekend. Kelly claims on Sunday UPS offered a proposal that was about the same as the one that was eventually agreed on, including no longer asking to pull out of the multi-employer pension funds. Carey claimed later that was not the case. In either case, UPS also asked at that time to continue negotiating past the new deadline to resolve the issues without a strike. That request was refused.</p><p></p><p>You are somewhat deluded about your compensation ideas for non-bargaining unit employees. There was a time in the good old days when UPS management and certain other non-union employees had the same benefits package the IBT got, and got similar raises. That connection has long been severed, and UPS has saved money on that front. While I am not convinced of a direct causal connection, I suppose an argument could be made that Carey could be thanked in part for that.</p><p></p><p>As for the difference between the wage that was initially offered and what was accepted, that is really not the point when looking at the cost to teamsters of lost wages during the strike. The number to look at would be the difference between the wage that was won and what the IBT COULD have one had it agreed to continue negotiating without the strike. That we can only speculate on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brownIEman, post: 968666, member: 14596"] The meeting on July 31 was between both sides and the Federal Mediators. At the end of that meeting, both sides agreed to return to the negotiating table on Aug. 1, and the IBT agreed to postpone the strike till Aug 4. There was no handshake agreement on a contract on July 31. Whoever gave you that information is mis-informed or making it up. They negotiated thoughout that weekend. Kelly claims on Sunday UPS offered a proposal that was about the same as the one that was eventually agreed on, including no longer asking to pull out of the multi-employer pension funds. Carey claimed later that was not the case. In either case, UPS also asked at that time to continue negotiating past the new deadline to resolve the issues without a strike. That request was refused. You are somewhat deluded about your compensation ideas for non-bargaining unit employees. There was a time in the good old days when UPS management and certain other non-union employees had the same benefits package the IBT got, and got similar raises. That connection has long been severed, and UPS has saved money on that front. While I am not convinced of a direct causal connection, I suppose an argument could be made that Carey could be thanked in part for that. As for the difference between the wage that was initially offered and what was accepted, that is really not the point when looking at the cost to teamsters of lost wages during the strike. The number to look at would be the difference between the wage that was won and what the IBT COULD have one had it agreed to continue negotiating without the strike. That we can only speculate on. [/QUOTE]
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