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<blockquote data-quote="Inthegame" data-source="post: 968707" data-attributes="member: 37112"><p>Forgive me for the deluded comment. You sound like you know how this plays out, therefore you know of the many after hour meetings that take place. An extremely reliable source who was in the "inner circle" assured me hall and David Murray had a deal done Thursday night. Carey and Kelly came to the Friday session and things went south. If indeed Kelly offered that deal to Carey, it wasn't offered to the table. (I oftened wondered how did UPS get info about their offer in my mailbox by Tuesday August 6th if it wasn't printed beforehand?) Anyway the wage deal was far improved over what the company presented as their last, best and final offer. UPS proposed $.30 increases every other year (not first year) and a 7 year book. That's $.90 compared to the $2.10 (plus cola) received in the five year book plus additional monies far above the UPS original offer for benefits.</p><p>I agree the wage package for management today is different than the wages received by non-hourlies of years ago. I've been around a while and presumed you have also, and benefitted from IBT wages negotiated years ago. </p><p>I do not understand your last point as how Carey could have gotten without a strike what it took a strike to get. If UPS was willing to give what they eventually agreed to give, even after the first day of the strike, lots of losses could have been avoided. It took that strike to get the proper attention. The agreement reached was exactly what the Teamsters requested the last week of July. The Teamsters didn't increase demands at the end. The negotiations lasted long enough, the difference in those negotiations was Carey and his adherence to deadlines. Carey and Kelly had negotiated before at L804 and Kelly was well aware of Carey's intransigence. </p><p>I appreciate your informed thoughts. There were "good old days" when treatment for all employees was at a higher level. I have friends in upper management who are very disappointed by the new regime.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Inthegame, post: 968707, member: 37112"] Forgive me for the deluded comment. You sound like you know how this plays out, therefore you know of the many after hour meetings that take place. An extremely reliable source who was in the "inner circle" assured me hall and David Murray had a deal done Thursday night. Carey and Kelly came to the Friday session and things went south. If indeed Kelly offered that deal to Carey, it wasn't offered to the table. (I oftened wondered how did UPS get info about their offer in my mailbox by Tuesday August 6th if it wasn't printed beforehand?) Anyway the wage deal was far improved over what the company presented as their last, best and final offer. UPS proposed $.30 increases every other year (not first year) and a 7 year book. That's $.90 compared to the $2.10 (plus cola) received in the five year book plus additional monies far above the UPS original offer for benefits. I agree the wage package for management today is different than the wages received by non-hourlies of years ago. I've been around a while and presumed you have also, and benefitted from IBT wages negotiated years ago. I do not understand your last point as how Carey could have gotten without a strike what it took a strike to get. If UPS was willing to give what they eventually agreed to give, even after the first day of the strike, lots of losses could have been avoided. It took that strike to get the proper attention. The agreement reached was exactly what the Teamsters requested the last week of July. The Teamsters didn't increase demands at the end. The negotiations lasted long enough, the difference in those negotiations was Carey and his adherence to deadlines. Carey and Kelly had negotiated before at L804 and Kelly was well aware of Carey's intransigence. I appreciate your informed thoughts. There were "good old days" when treatment for all employees was at a higher level. I have friends in upper management who are very disappointed by the new regime. [/QUOTE]
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