Teamster Buyout?

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Dammit.....

Damn right um going Just 31st





















2028

 

[Pullman Brown]

Not at all, you have to look at it to see what they’re offering and how big of a scam it is to warn others. Knowledge is power.

 

[Pullman Brown]

Damn right um going Just 31st





















2028

 

[tourists24]

We're going to strike because UPS wants to buy out some old-ass-should-be-retired employees?

The strike would be because UPS has egregiously violated the contract, specifically Article 6.

I'm not so sure this is a violation of Article 6.

Article 6

Except as may be otherwise provided in this Agreement, the Employer agrees not to enter into, or attempt to enter into, any agreement or contract with its employees, either individually or collectively, or to require or attempt to require employees to sign any document, either individually or collectively, which in any way conflicts with the provisions of this Agreement. Any such Agreement or document shall be null and void.

How would taking a lump sum payment to resign from the company violate a provision in this agreement. There is no contractual language involving resignation, or separation, or lump sum payments.

I believe @BadIdeaGuy stated that there is a clause in the 710 contract about resignations, so there may be an issue there, but not in the NMUPSA.

And I think O'Brien knows it. He asked us not to accept the offer and to file a grievance.

The fact that it's the first time ever this has been attempted makes me wonder that it may be a violation of Article 6. It's individuals entering into an agreement that's terms have not been negotiated with the IBT. I think the legal question would be if it in any way conflicts any provision in the agreement. Of course it may be moot if the IBT simply sits back and takes no action other than just let the grievance procedure run it's course. If they don't attempt to get some sort of temporary injunction relief then the rest doesn't matter.

 

[over9five]

Didn't someone post a picture of UPS saying this was negotiated in the last...negotiations?
Was it?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Didn't someone post a picture of UPS saying this was negotiated in the last...negotiations?
Was it?

Right underneath the reinstatement of turkeys

 

[tourists24]

How are you getting screwed accepting free $$$
SMH

It's so vague but I suppose if there are lesser senior drivers that get the offer accepted over more senior drivers that also apply and get rejected (based on the needs of the company), that could be getting screwed.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It's so vague but I suppose if there are lesser senior drivers that get the offer accepted over more senior drivers that also apply and get rejected (based on the needs of the company), that could be getting screwed.

The website said it goes by seniority

 

[Ou812fu]

Are they going to take 401k money out of that lump sum?

Many people might be surprised at income tax time.

If the check is paid in one lump sum the taxes taken out will be in the 40% range. Watch.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

If the check is paid in one lump sum the taxes taken out will be in the 40% range. Watch.

50k becomes 30k

 

[over9five]

The website said it goes by seniority

And the needs of the particular center, I think I read.

 

[tourists24]

The website said it goes by seniority

For each center? Or the entire country? It does say based on company needs too correct? What if a smaller center has several high senior drivers that can't afford to be let go and a huge center can absorb the loss of lesser senior drivers than that small center? Just wondering how in depth the company has planned that part

 

[Ou812fu]

How are you getting screwed accepting free $$$
SMH

 

[tourists24]

And the needs of the particular center, I think I read.

That's what makes we wonder if it's a company wide seniority or center by center. I'd be ticked if I had 35 years of seniority and was refused if somewhere else a driver with 28 years got accepted.....

 

[Appvol]

How are you getting screwed accepting free $$$
SMH

If I have 10 years left I would be losing money in the long run.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

For each center? Or the entire country? It does say based on company needs too correct? What if a smaller center has several high senior drivers that can't afford to be let go and a huge center can absorb the loss of lesser senior drivers than that small center? Just wondering how in depth the company has planned that part

Nobody knows

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

And the needs of the particular center, I think I read.

They don't need you

Bye

 

[over9five]

They don't need you

Bye

They don't need me Monday, much less Oct 31....

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

They don't need me Monday, much less Oct 31....

Let's all call off Monday
Tell them we are practicing for the buyout

 

[over9five]

Let's all call off Monday
Tell them we are practicing for the buyout

Lol, I'd like to see their expression when we said that!