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<blockquote data-quote="BigUnionGuy" data-source="post: 3796849" data-attributes="member: 4992"><p>How much more "gnashing of the teeth" are we going to see.</p><p></p><p>People didn't vote and the IBT has exercised provisions of the IBT constitution.</p><p></p><p>End of story.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it's funny, how people were so sucked in by UPS's statement that they</p><p></p><p>anticipated going back to the table after the vote count.</p><p></p><p>Hate to tell everyone.... UPS isn't stupid.</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>"All employers negotiating agreements with multi-union, multi‐state, area, multi‐area </em></p><p><em>or national conferences, trade divisions or committees established hereunder, or with subordinate bodies, <u>shall be provided with a copy of this Article</u> at the time negotiations are started so they will have notice of the approval necessary for a binding agreement."</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p>Being that UPS was provided a copy of the IBT Constitution prior to commencing</p><p></p><p>negotiations, don't you think they were aware of the constitutional requirements ?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe.. just maybe.. they were trying to look like the "good guy" by feigning</p><p></p><p>confusion, and trying to see what the IBT would do.... to try and embarrass</p><p></p><p>the IBT by using the constitution against us ?</p><p></p><p></p><p>On another note;</p><p></p><p></p><p>People keep bring up the 2013 contract vote, and how the IBT didn't impose</p><p></p><p>the 50% 2/3 rule on the supplements that were voted down.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again.... the IBT constitution.</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>"In the event such a special rider or supplement is not approved by the affected members, <u>and the master agreement is ratified</u>, the supplemental negotiating committee shall meet with the master negotiating committee to identify the issues which resulted in the rejection of the special rider or supplement. The master negotiating committee shall assist the supplemental negotiating committee when bargaining resumes with the employer in an effort to resolve the issues."</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em></em></p><p><a href="https://teamster.filecamp.com/0/teamster/binary/25np-re7bjk5k.pdf" target="_blank">https://teamster.filecamp.com/0/teamster/binary/25np-re7bjk5k.pdf</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>In 2013, the Master was ratified and the IBT followed the constitution by going back</p><p></p><p>and attempted to resolve the issues. After the required attempt(s) to resolve the</p><p></p><p>local issues.... it was determined, the 3 remaining supplements were just voting no</p><p></p><p>trying to change the Master language regarding the TeamCare issue.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess, I'm the only one that knows these types of things.</p><p></p><p></p><p>After all....</p><p></p><p>My PayPal account hasn't seen a dime, from all the knowledge I dispense.</p><p></p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>-Bug-</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BigUnionGuy, post: 3796849, member: 4992"] How much more "gnashing of the teeth" are we going to see. People didn't vote and the IBT has exercised provisions of the IBT constitution. End of story. I think it's funny, how people were so sucked in by UPS's statement that they anticipated going back to the table after the vote count. Hate to tell everyone.... UPS isn't stupid. [I]"All employers negotiating agreements with multi-union, multi‐state, area, multi‐area or national conferences, trade divisions or committees established hereunder, or with subordinate bodies, [U]shall be provided with a copy of this Article[/U] at the time negotiations are started so they will have notice of the approval necessary for a binding agreement." [/I] Being that UPS was provided a copy of the IBT Constitution prior to commencing negotiations, don't you think they were aware of the constitutional requirements ? Maybe.. just maybe.. they were trying to look like the "good guy" by feigning confusion, and trying to see what the IBT would do.... to try and embarrass the IBT by using the constitution against us ? On another note; People keep bring up the 2013 contract vote, and how the IBT didn't impose the 50% 2/3 rule on the supplements that were voted down. Again.... the IBT constitution. [I]"In the event such a special rider or supplement is not approved by the affected members, [U]and the master agreement is ratified[/U], the supplemental negotiating committee shall meet with the master negotiating committee to identify the issues which resulted in the rejection of the special rider or supplement. The master negotiating committee shall assist the supplemental negotiating committee when bargaining resumes with the employer in an effort to resolve the issues." [/I] [URL]https://teamster.filecamp.com/0/teamster/binary/25np-re7bjk5k.pdf[/URL] In 2013, the Master was ratified and the IBT followed the constitution by going back and attempted to resolve the issues. After the required attempt(s) to resolve the local issues.... it was determined, the 3 remaining supplements were just voting no trying to change the Master language regarding the TeamCare issue. I guess, I'm the only one that knows these types of things. After all.... My PayPal account hasn't seen a dime, from all the knowledge I dispense. ;) -Bug- [/QUOTE]
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