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<blockquote data-quote="BrownShark" data-source="post: 333074" data-attributes="member: 12148"><p>Mrs UPS,</p><p> </p><p>This situation is a current "backdoor" issue with UPS. Depending on your locals "package rider", the issue of cover drivers are addressed. There is NO national language that superceeds "package Rider" language.</p><p> </p><p>The first thing you need to understand is that the hiring of Temp cover drivers is OUTSIDE the contract and a grievable act against the company by those part time employees designated as cover drivers.</p><p> </p><p>Unless a specific section in the package rider allows this practice, you should be lucky if he keeps his position.</p><p> </p><p>One poster mentioned a 1 in 6 ratio but that ratio varies local to local and has NO part in this scenario. The mentioned ratio only applies to those hired off the street as FULL TIME DRIVERS, an accepted policy between the local and company.</p><p> </p><p>Example, UPS tried that here in so cal. A grievance was filed, those off the street were either <strong>termed</strong> or <strong>moved into preload</strong> and had to get on the cover driving list before they could be used again as cover drivers.</p><p> </p><p>This is a matter of seniority.</p><p> </p><p>You cant come off the street and be hired as a temp cover driver and "hidden" on the preload books. This practice is called "ghosting".</p><p> </p><p>Ghosting is where a center operator uses a driver onroad who never appears on the books for the center and the time hidden on preload.</p><p> </p><p>This helps the numbers, gets up sporh but is a deceptive practice. Since nobody in the ivory tower is smart enough to catch this practice it goes unnoticed until the UNION catches it.</p><p> </p><p>The practice of off the street hires vary local to local, however there is no practice of temp cover drivers.</p><p> </p><p>Cover drivers can only be used for vacation, jury duty or funeral leave coverage and there is specific language that prohibits the use of cover drivers for supplemental coverage.</p><p> </p><p>There must be a new full time driver hired each time a cover driver is used any 30 days in a 90 day period and that driver comes off the full time list, not the cover drivers themselves.</p><p> </p><p>If he was hired as a temp cover driver, "I" personally would seek to have him either removed from payroll or sent to preload at the bottom of the seniority list. Thats the RIGHT thing to do.</p><p> </p><p>However, if your in a small town and there are not enough qualified people to drive, then I would see no reason the union and the company couldnt come up with an agreement that does not violate seniority.</p><p> </p><p>The practice of hiring temp drivers is an ongoing problem at UPS and its only begining to reach the surface.</p><p> </p><p>Once the company completes paying the back pay to those affected cover drivers who did not get to drive because the company hired an illegal driver off the street will the problem cease.</p><p> </p><p>Hope you dont mind the honest truth, but this is a union job with union rules. Being a nice guy has no part in the matter.</p><p> </p><p>Something to remember, seniority, seniority seniority.</p><p> </p><p>Peace<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownShark, post: 333074, member: 12148"] Mrs UPS, This situation is a current "backdoor" issue with UPS. Depending on your locals "package rider", the issue of cover drivers are addressed. There is NO national language that superceeds "package Rider" language. The first thing you need to understand is that the hiring of Temp cover drivers is OUTSIDE the contract and a grievable act against the company by those part time employees designated as cover drivers. Unless a specific section in the package rider allows this practice, you should be lucky if he keeps his position. One poster mentioned a 1 in 6 ratio but that ratio varies local to local and has NO part in this scenario. The mentioned ratio only applies to those hired off the street as FULL TIME DRIVERS, an accepted policy between the local and company. Example, UPS tried that here in so cal. A grievance was filed, those off the street were either [B]termed[/B] or [B]moved into preload[/B] and had to get on the cover driving list before they could be used again as cover drivers. This is a matter of seniority. You cant come off the street and be hired as a temp cover driver and "hidden" on the preload books. This practice is called "ghosting". Ghosting is where a center operator uses a driver onroad who never appears on the books for the center and the time hidden on preload. This helps the numbers, gets up sporh but is a deceptive practice. Since nobody in the ivory tower is smart enough to catch this practice it goes unnoticed until the UNION catches it. The practice of off the street hires vary local to local, however there is no practice of temp cover drivers. Cover drivers can only be used for vacation, jury duty or funeral leave coverage and there is specific language that prohibits the use of cover drivers for supplemental coverage. There must be a new full time driver hired each time a cover driver is used any 30 days in a 90 day period and that driver comes off the full time list, not the cover drivers themselves. If he was hired as a temp cover driver, "I" personally would seek to have him either removed from payroll or sent to preload at the bottom of the seniority list. Thats the RIGHT thing to do. However, if your in a small town and there are not enough qualified people to drive, then I would see no reason the union and the company couldnt come up with an agreement that does not violate seniority. The practice of hiring temp drivers is an ongoing problem at UPS and its only begining to reach the surface. Once the company completes paying the back pay to those affected cover drivers who did not get to drive because the company hired an illegal driver off the street will the problem cease. Hope you dont mind the honest truth, but this is a union job with union rules. Being a nice guy has no part in the matter. Something to remember, seniority, seniority seniority. Peace:peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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