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<blockquote data-quote="brownIEman" data-source="post: 4888238" data-attributes="member: 14596"><p>The proposal back in 97 was for a plan with equal numbers of trustees from both the company and union. Not just a couple 'token union trustees. Any reduction in benefits would have required a renegotiation in the contract anyway, not even a unanimous vote of trustees has that authority. Any movement of funds to pad anything would have required at least one union trustee to come over to the company side to break the deadlock. </p><p>I you're speaking from experience you're speaking from the experience of drinking IBT propaganda.</p><p></p><p>BTW, I'm not really defending the company plan from back then. It actually would have been better for the UPSers, but would have absolutely effed the orphans in the multi plans, like with no lube. There was no way the IBT could agree to it back then. But rather than be honest about why they could not accept it, they convinced you the company was just trying to take it over to draw it down and steal the money. </p><p></p><p>FYI, comparing it to what they are doing with the management plan misses a major point. Had they succeeded in '97, they would still need to get the IBT to agree to the kind of changes they are making to that plan. </p><p>Have your pensions been frozen? New participant's locked out? Remember, in '07 or '08 UPS basically got what it had been asking for in 97 for about $4 billion more and organizing of overnight/ups freight.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brownIEman, post: 4888238, member: 14596"] The proposal back in 97 was for a plan with equal numbers of trustees from both the company and union. Not just a couple 'token union trustees. Any reduction in benefits would have required a renegotiation in the contract anyway, not even a unanimous vote of trustees has that authority. Any movement of funds to pad anything would have required at least one union trustee to come over to the company side to break the deadlock. I you're speaking from experience you're speaking from the experience of drinking IBT propaganda. BTW, I'm not really defending the company plan from back then. It actually would have been better for the UPSers, but would have absolutely effed the orphans in the multi plans, like with no lube. There was no way the IBT could agree to it back then. But rather than be honest about why they could not accept it, they convinced you the company was just trying to take it over to draw it down and steal the money. FYI, comparing it to what they are doing with the management plan misses a major point. Had they succeeded in '97, they would still need to get the IBT to agree to the kind of changes they are making to that plan. Have your pensions been frozen? New participant's locked out? Remember, in '07 or '08 UPS basically got what it had been asking for in 97 for about $4 billion more and organizing of overnight/ups freight. [/QUOTE]
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