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<blockquote data-quote="Dracula" data-source="post: 1019064" data-attributes="member: 42691"><p>Hard to say much about your case, as your details are understandably vague. You said you made a derogatory comment to another driver. You should never admit guilt with this company, but there is no use in hammering you about that now; it's past that now. You've apologized, and right now, that is all you can hang your job on. </p><p></p><p>I don't know what part of the country you are in, but in the Midwest, our panels are referred to as the Two-State hearing<em>s. </em>I'm hope the panels you have are different from our panels, because ours are where jobs go to die. Ever since Hoffa was elected, the Two-State panels are to be avoided at all costs. They are ALWAYS slanted towards the company, and the union reps on those panels should gave been kicked out of the union long ago. They are a ******* disgrace to the Teamster name. And that blame lays directly at Hoffa's feet.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully--and I really mean that--your panels are different. </p><p></p><p>In our local, if you get terminated (suspended), you do everything you can to get back to work, even if it means eating ****** and losing 3, 4, 5, even 6 weeks of lost time. Because here, you avoid Two-State panels like the plague. Again, it's completely wrong, and our union dues should go down every time a good man/woman loses their job because someone on our side votes against them.</p><p></p><p>About ten years ago, my management was coming after me and my job because I used to file grievances all of the time, and held their feet to the fire every chance I could. After a while, it made me miserable, because I was losing the grievances and I realized my local didn't have my back. I figured it was only a matter of time before a made a simple mistake on car, would be terminated and have my case sent to the Two-State panel. I worried about losing my job and all of the time I accumulated. </p><p></p><p>But after I while, I started looking at it in a different way. I thought all of the things that kept me at UPS, also, were the same things that I hated about UPS. I started here when I was 18, and made myself a lifer in more ways than one. This job has provided me with a lot of good things over the years, but it has also made me pay a heavy price for those things. Slowly, I came to know, really KNOW, that things would be OK if I got fired. Not comfortable, certainly not in the near term, but I had good family and friends; I would have been alright. No, I wouldn't have made as much money for a while, maybe even ever, who knows? But you can bet your ass I would have had a huge burden lifted off my shoulders. This place can take a horrible toll on a person if you let it.</p><p></p><p>So I saw my grievances weren't being won, and in fact, were only causing me grief, making me hot tempered at work towards my management team. So I stopped filing grievances, for the most part. And I stopped worrying about losing my job. I told myself, "If it happens, it happens. I will survive". It worked for me. I started to let things roll off my back. And slowly, things cooled down, and they kind of forgot about me. I was happier. Parts of me hated that UPS could violate our contract whenever they pleased, and for the most part, there was little I could do about it. But that was the situation our union was--is--in. </p><p></p><p>I guess what I'm trying to say to you is this: you are still pretty young. No one NEEDS this job. And happiness isn't something you should look for here. Happiness is AFTER you clock out and go home. Yeah, in a tough economy, a good paying job with good benefits is something to have and hold, but it sure isn't the end all. There are boatloads of people who are in handsomely paid jobs and occupations that are completely miserable. I know plenty.</p><p></p><p>Money doesn't make us happy; it only cushions us if we aren't already happy. </p><p></p><p>I really hope you get your job back, but if for some reason you don't, keep your head up and find something that makes you happy, even you don't make as much money. In the long run, you should be better off.</p><p></p><p>Good luck, brother.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dracula, post: 1019064, member: 42691"] Hard to say much about your case, as your details are understandably vague. You said you made a derogatory comment to another driver. You should never admit guilt with this company, but there is no use in hammering you about that now; it's past that now. You've apologized, and right now, that is all you can hang your job on. I don't know what part of the country you are in, but in the Midwest, our panels are referred to as the Two-State hearing[I]s. [/I]I'm hope the panels you have are different from our panels, because ours are where jobs go to die. Ever since Hoffa was elected, the Two-State panels are to be avoided at all costs. They are ALWAYS slanted towards the company, and the union reps on those panels should gave been kicked out of the union long ago. They are a ******* disgrace to the Teamster name. And that blame lays directly at Hoffa's feet. Hopefully--and I really mean that--your panels are different. In our local, if you get terminated (suspended), you do everything you can to get back to work, even if it means eating ****** and losing 3, 4, 5, even 6 weeks of lost time. Because here, you avoid Two-State panels like the plague. Again, it's completely wrong, and our union dues should go down every time a good man/woman loses their job because someone on our side votes against them. About ten years ago, my management was coming after me and my job because I used to file grievances all of the time, and held their feet to the fire every chance I could. After a while, it made me miserable, because I was losing the grievances and I realized my local didn't have my back. I figured it was only a matter of time before a made a simple mistake on car, would be terminated and have my case sent to the Two-State panel. I worried about losing my job and all of the time I accumulated. But after I while, I started looking at it in a different way. I thought all of the things that kept me at UPS, also, were the same things that I hated about UPS. I started here when I was 18, and made myself a lifer in more ways than one. This job has provided me with a lot of good things over the years, but it has also made me pay a heavy price for those things. Slowly, I came to know, really KNOW, that things would be OK if I got fired. Not comfortable, certainly not in the near term, but I had good family and friends; I would have been alright. No, I wouldn't have made as much money for a while, maybe even ever, who knows? But you can bet your ass I would have had a huge burden lifted off my shoulders. This place can take a horrible toll on a person if you let it. So I saw my grievances weren't being won, and in fact, were only causing me grief, making me hot tempered at work towards my management team. So I stopped filing grievances, for the most part. And I stopped worrying about losing my job. I told myself, "If it happens, it happens. I will survive". It worked for me. I started to let things roll off my back. And slowly, things cooled down, and they kind of forgot about me. I was happier. Parts of me hated that UPS could violate our contract whenever they pleased, and for the most part, there was little I could do about it. But that was the situation our union was--is--in. I guess what I'm trying to say to you is this: you are still pretty young. No one NEEDS this job. And happiness isn't something you should look for here. Happiness is AFTER you clock out and go home. Yeah, in a tough economy, a good paying job with good benefits is something to have and hold, but it sure isn't the end all. There are boatloads of people who are in handsomely paid jobs and occupations that are completely miserable. I know plenty. Money doesn't make us happy; it only cushions us if we aren't already happy. I really hope you get your job back, but if for some reason you don't, keep your head up and find something that makes you happy, even you don't make as much money. In the long run, you should be better off. Good luck, brother. [/QUOTE]
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