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<blockquote data-quote="Dracula" data-source="post: 1057619" data-attributes="member: 42691"><p>Sounds like the hubbub isn't about you working over 14 hours, but the fact you couldn't protect your preload job. Actually, I would bet this week's check, that the real problem is your bosses, bosses, bosses found out that a part-timer worked over 14 hours and, "How in the HELL did you let a part-timer work THAT many hours?!?!" And then, the ball began rolling downhill until it rolled you over.</p><p></p><p>The lesson here is really quite simple. Never, NEVER make a decision of your own. Let management make the decisions. Trust me, the laughs you'll get watching their dumb-assed choices is worth playing dumb. </p><p></p><p>Since you're part-time, most likely they never really reviewed with you the rules concerning DOT hours of work. You CAN work over 14HRS once a week, as long as you aren't driving more than 11HRS during that day. You still need to inform them. You always need to tell your sup that you're at risk of going over 14HRS, then let them make the decision. And as others have said, 14HRS is from the time you punch in, until the time you punch out. Even though you don't get paid for lunch, it still counts towards your 14. </p><p></p><p>But I'm guessing what really got you, and made your supervisors look like the morons they really are, is that you either started working before your mandatory 10HRS off the clock began, or that you couldn't start preloading at your normal time. So if your preload start time was 3:30 AM, for example, you would HAVE to have been off the clock from driving at 5:30PM the previous day. See, 10HRS? </p><p></p><p>Bottom line: only you can protect yourself in these situations. Never be afraid to call and throw your weight around. Meaning, TELL them, in the example above, that you HAVE to clock out by 5:30, and it's 4:30 now, and I have 50 stops left, and I'm bringing them back NOW! Tell them you know the DOT hours of service rules, and it's up to them to figure out how they're going to make service on these packages. Nine times out of ten, when you get tagged for something like this, it's because your management is demonstrating how stupid they are. But that doesn't excuse you from not knowing the rules and covering your own ass. Consider it a lesson well learned.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dracula, post: 1057619, member: 42691"] Sounds like the hubbub isn't about you working over 14 hours, but the fact you couldn't protect your preload job. Actually, I would bet this week's check, that the real problem is your bosses, bosses, bosses found out that a part-timer worked over 14 hours and, "How in the HELL did you let a part-timer work THAT many hours?!?!" And then, the ball began rolling downhill until it rolled you over. The lesson here is really quite simple. Never, NEVER make a decision of your own. Let management make the decisions. Trust me, the laughs you'll get watching their dumb-assed choices is worth playing dumb. Since you're part-time, most likely they never really reviewed with you the rules concerning DOT hours of work. You CAN work over 14HRS once a week, as long as you aren't driving more than 11HRS during that day. You still need to inform them. You always need to tell your sup that you're at risk of going over 14HRS, then let them make the decision. And as others have said, 14HRS is from the time you punch in, until the time you punch out. Even though you don't get paid for lunch, it still counts towards your 14. But I'm guessing what really got you, and made your supervisors look like the morons they really are, is that you either started working before your mandatory 10HRS off the clock began, or that you couldn't start preloading at your normal time. So if your preload start time was 3:30 AM, for example, you would HAVE to have been off the clock from driving at 5:30PM the previous day. See, 10HRS? Bottom line: only you can protect yourself in these situations. Never be afraid to call and throw your weight around. Meaning, TELL them, in the example above, that you HAVE to clock out by 5:30, and it's 4:30 now, and I have 50 stops left, and I'm bringing them back NOW! Tell them you know the DOT hours of service rules, and it's up to them to figure out how they're going to make service on these packages. Nine times out of ten, when you get tagged for something like this, it's because your management is demonstrating how stupid they are. But that doesn't excuse you from not knowing the rules and covering your own ass. Consider it a lesson well learned. [/QUOTE]
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