The 3 day OJS- Violation?

[Wally]

Look at Article 37, section 2, (p 122).

..." No driver will be scheduled for more than one (1) day’s ride
per year with more than one (1) member of management on the car.
Such day will not be used for disciplinary purposes"...

It would seem to me, the company can ride once a year only, including annually safety ride. Want to OJS? Go ahead, but you cannot discipline for it.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Look at Article 37, section 2, (p 122).

..." No driver will be scheduled for more than one (1) day’s ride
per year with more than one (1) member of management on the car.
Such day will not be used for disciplinary purposes"...

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

They can ride as often as needed if there are production issues or excessive customer service issues.

 

[Wally]

Section 3 covers grieving excessive rides but I read this as a limit on the OJS. It is very vague as is all OJS language.

 

[Jones]

They can ride with you all they want. If you feel you are being harassed then file on it and you might get a favorable resolution in that specific instance, but there is nothing in the contract that prevents them from getting on the car with you anytime they feel it is necessary.

 

[bottomups]

How can more than one management person ride with you when there is only one jumpseat with a seatbelt?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

How can more than one management person ride with you when there is only one jumpseat with a seatbelt?

It wouldn't happen today but it wasn't uncommon to have two members of mgt on board at the same time. One would use the jump seat and the other would either squat between the seats or stand in the open cargo area bracing himself by holding on to the shelves. You know you were in for a very long day when you had two sups on the car.

 

[bottomups]

Early in my career they tried this with me. Informed them that this package car ain't moving until everyone is buckled in. Won that battle.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

They can't do it now.... because of seatbelt laws.

Antiquated language.



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[Stonefish]

They can't do it now.... because of seatbelt laws.

Antiquated language.



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There are package cars that have a 3rd seat where the bulkhead door is. It slides out of the way

 

[Jones]

Remember when the pc didn't even have a jumpseat and the passenger had to stand in the wheel well?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

There are package cars that have a 3rd seat where the bulkhead door is. It slides out of the way

I would like to see a picture of that.

When I started driving.... we still had package cars with wood bulkhead doors.



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[3 done 3 to go]

Who cares how many ride alongside you get. That is the day you follow their methods and take your lunch in the 3rd /5th hour. You will kill them when you need to make a meet. To stay out with a manager on car. Last yr they had atleast 10 with me. For some reason. I always have an 8 hr day.

 

[3 done 3 to go]

I would like to see a picture of that.

When I started driving.... we still had package cars with wood bulkhead doors.


And fold up shelves. We lost our wood door about 5-6 yrs ago when they replaced with new trucks ---twice


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[Stonefish]

I would like to see a picture of that.

When I started driving.... we still had package cars with wood bulkhead doors.



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You aren't far from Cincy. Come on down you can see one

 

[BigUnionGuy]

You aren't far from Cincy. Come on down you can see one

You offer me this....

But.... when I show up....

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[Anonymous 10]

You offer me this....

But.... when I show up....

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Thanks for the new avatar

 

[Johney]

There are package cars that have a 3rd seat where the bulkhead door is. It slides out of the way

I have seen these also.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Thanks for the new avatar

Thats, why I like you.



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[Wally]

I would like to see a picture of that.

When I started driving.... we still had package cars with wood bulkhead doors.



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I remember a few with big holes in the grey painted plywood. No need for a key, just reach in and unlock from the inside!