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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 616974" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Who was it that cried "No taxation without representation?"</p><p></p><p>Excellent point Jones!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And where would the money come from to pay these people? Taxes? We're right back to coercion and servitude again as those who pay the taxes are forced to serve the economic betterment of others. We don't live in a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntaryism" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">voluntaryist</span></a> or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">mutualist</span></a> world so all means are achieved via force compliance. If we did live in such world, your idea would be welcomed and place in the, wait for it, "free market" and then those who wanted or desired could freely choose such devices.</p><p></p><p>How is your idea, noble intent it may be, any different from a "Gondorian" corporation being granted priviledge (monopoly) in return for a specific service (function in the State's Central Planed economy) to the Steward and this includes State Salvation from the Steward via the pockets of the masses when the wheels of the corporation start coming off because the very corporation took off the lugnuts themselves! Borrowing your LOTR's analogy which I thought was pretty slick.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's a very good observation IMO and being that Tolkin's tale was as much political, economic commentary as it was pure fantasy for the kiddies. I'm sure the <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/images/537815/0_61_320_hannity_rush1.jpg" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">head orcs</span> </a>of Mordor would scream bloody murder if I dare point out that your observation is a stinging indictment of <a href="http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/corporatism.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">State Capitialism</span> </a>which they love and has nothing to do with free market, the strong emphasis being on the word "FREE" meaning unbound from all forms of coercion.</p><p></p><p>The way to escape a cage is to loosen the bars, not tighten their grip!</p><p></p><p>And if you think I'm leaving out the Blue State Orcs?</p><p></p><p>Not a chance! <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p><p>[media=youtube]PMJBblg71a4[/media]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 616974, member: 2189"] Who was it that cried "No taxation without representation?" Excellent point Jones! And where would the money come from to pay these people? Taxes? We're right back to coercion and servitude again as those who pay the taxes are forced to serve the economic betterment of others. We don't live in a [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntaryism'][COLOR=red]voluntaryist[/COLOR][/URL] or [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism'][COLOR=red]mutualist[/COLOR][/URL] world so all means are achieved via force compliance. If we did live in such world, your idea would be welcomed and place in the, wait for it, "free market" and then those who wanted or desired could freely choose such devices. How is your idea, noble intent it may be, any different from a "Gondorian" corporation being granted priviledge (monopoly) in return for a specific service (function in the State's Central Planed economy) to the Steward and this includes State Salvation from the Steward via the pockets of the masses when the wheels of the corporation start coming off because the very corporation took off the lugnuts themselves! Borrowing your LOTR's analogy which I thought was pretty slick. That's a very good observation IMO and being that Tolkin's tale was as much political, economic commentary as it was pure fantasy for the kiddies. I'm sure the [URL='http://www.foxnews.com/images/537815/0_61_320_hannity_rush1.jpg'][COLOR=red]head orcs[/COLOR] [/URL]of Mordor would scream bloody murder if I dare point out that your observation is a stinging indictment of [URL='http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/corporatism.htm'][COLOR=red]State Capitialism[/COLOR] [/URL]which they love and has nothing to do with free market, the strong emphasis being on the word "FREE" meaning unbound from all forms of coercion. The way to escape a cage is to loosen the bars, not tighten their grip! And if you think I'm leaving out the Blue State Orcs? Not a chance! :happy-very: [media=youtube]PMJBblg71a4[/media] [/QUOTE]
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