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<blockquote data-quote="TUT" data-source="post: 1329033" data-attributes="member: 29298"><p>I'm all for people can believe what they want, if there is no harm done to others. I'm very liberal in that. If there is harm in their beliefs, well we have man made laws for many of them.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps I'm also envious that people who have had life altering moments. If that is what it took to make them full, that means prior they were on the fence to some level, living in some doubt, like many. Faith wasn't totally enough, direct contact and interpretation was needed. Well in that case only a total fool would deny. Science would accept. Basically God would be with us, boom there they are. Like you or me standing square on mother earth.</p><p></p><p>But when you mention this privileged grouping, they have an advantage many haven't had. Expecting the "have-nots" to have the same strong beliefs doesn't seem like something one can bank on.</p><p></p><p>I hope we all find our peace and happiness. Believing, not believing or just confused all the same. Whatever it takes for us to get there, however we have to reason to find that place, do it!</p><p></p><p>Personally I've accepted this is too big for me, I'm trying to look at the big picture at an insanely low altitude, I don't need to be worrying on a cosmic level. By paper I am a confirmed Christian that goes by the name Casimir. If what I picture of Jesus, if he were to grace us today he'd have a large issue with a lot of Christian's and their lives, how they step on others to perch themselves up. I believe many Christians would find their actions so threatened that they couldn't accept a direct Jesus, as it means surrendering and apologizing for too much.</p><p></p><p>Then what about all the billions that have their own faith, pre-dating Jesus? Whom didn't have direct contact with Jesus 2000 years ago? They have to take in whole from another society their word as fact, their beliefs down the drain. Accept that their society wasn't worthy of God's presence when he was on Earth for a very limited time. That has to be hard for another society to accept, especially when everyone lies to everyone time and again. That is the problem with lying, how many times is ok, before we shouldn't be trusting anymore? Looking a big gov't now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TUT, post: 1329033, member: 29298"] I'm all for people can believe what they want, if there is no harm done to others. I'm very liberal in that. If there is harm in their beliefs, well we have man made laws for many of them. Perhaps I'm also envious that people who have had life altering moments. If that is what it took to make them full, that means prior they were on the fence to some level, living in some doubt, like many. Faith wasn't totally enough, direct contact and interpretation was needed. Well in that case only a total fool would deny. Science would accept. Basically God would be with us, boom there they are. Like you or me standing square on mother earth. But when you mention this privileged grouping, they have an advantage many haven't had. Expecting the "have-nots" to have the same strong beliefs doesn't seem like something one can bank on. I hope we all find our peace and happiness. Believing, not believing or just confused all the same. Whatever it takes for us to get there, however we have to reason to find that place, do it! Personally I've accepted this is too big for me, I'm trying to look at the big picture at an insanely low altitude, I don't need to be worrying on a cosmic level. By paper I am a confirmed Christian that goes by the name Casimir. If what I picture of Jesus, if he were to grace us today he'd have a large issue with a lot of Christian's and their lives, how they step on others to perch themselves up. I believe many Christians would find their actions so threatened that they couldn't accept a direct Jesus, as it means surrendering and apologizing for too much. Then what about all the billions that have their own faith, pre-dating Jesus? Whom didn't have direct contact with Jesus 2000 years ago? They have to take in whole from another society their word as fact, their beliefs down the drain. Accept that their society wasn't worthy of God's presence when he was on Earth for a very limited time. That has to be hard for another society to accept, especially when everyone lies to everyone time and again. That is the problem with lying, how many times is ok, before we shouldn't be trusting anymore? Looking a big gov't now. [/QUOTE]
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