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<blockquote data-quote="Jones" data-source="post: 88387" data-attributes="member: 4805"><p><span style="color: Red"><em>Retired I really don't think the issue is that complicated. I don't believe citizenship earned illegally should be granted. If they were born here due to their mother illegally entering the country then the child should not earn status as an american born citizen. That is the biggest scam the liberals have sold us to complicate the immigration issue. Once you grant the child citizenship you then hear slothrope crying "don't break up the family".</em></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"><em></em><span style="color: Black"> Blaming it on "the liberals" is a bit of a stretch, the precendent is actually a Supreme Court decision from 1898: (Text courtesy of Wikipedia)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: Red"><span style="color: Black"></span></span><em>The provisions in Section 1 ensure that children born on United States soil, with a very small number of exceptions, are U.S. citizens. This type of guarantee—legally termed "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli" target="_blank">jus soli</a>", or "right of the territory"— does not exist in most of Western Europe, although it is common in the Americas.</em></p><p> <em>The phrase "</em><em>and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" indicates that there are some exceptions to the universal rule that birth on U.S. soil automatically grants citizenship. The Supreme Court precedent set by the case of </em><em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark" target="_blank">United States v. Wong Kim Ark</a> interprets the exception narrowly to cover only the following:</em> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Children born to foreign diplomats</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Children born to enemy forces in hostile occupation of the United States</em></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States" target="_blank">Native Americans</a> born on tribal lands</em></li> </ul><p><em>Under this interpretation, the U.S.-born children of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigrant" target="_blank">illegal immigrants</a> and tourists are automatically U.S. citizens. </em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jones, post: 88387, member: 4805"] [COLOR=Red][I]Retired I really don't think the issue is that complicated. I don't believe citizenship earned illegally should be granted. If they were born here due to their mother illegally entering the country then the child should not earn status as an american born citizen. That is the biggest scam the liberals have sold us to complicate the immigration issue. Once you grant the child citizenship you then hear slothrope crying "don't break up the family". [/I][COLOR=Black] Blaming it on "the liberals" is a bit of a stretch, the precendent is actually a Supreme Court decision from 1898: (Text courtesy of Wikipedia) [/COLOR][/COLOR][I]The provisions in Section 1 ensure that children born on United States soil, with a very small number of exceptions, are U.S. citizens. This type of guarantee—legally termed "[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli"]jus soli[/URL]", or "right of the territory"— does not exist in most of Western Europe, although it is common in the Americas.[/I] [I]The phrase "[/I][I]and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" indicates that there are some exceptions to the universal rule that birth on U.S. soil automatically grants citizenship. The Supreme Court precedent set by the case of [/I][I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark"]United States v. Wong Kim Ark[/URL] interprets the exception narrowly to cover only the following:[/I][LIST] [*][I]Children born to foreign diplomats[/I] [*][I]Children born to enemy forces in hostile occupation of the United States[/I] [*][I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_in_the_United_States"]Native Americans[/URL] born on tribal lands[/I][/LIST][I]Under this interpretation, the U.S.-born children of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigrant"]illegal immigrants[/URL] and tourists are automatically U.S. citizens. [/I] [/QUOTE]
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