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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 89717" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>In light of the political shifting winds and the recent comments by a wide degree of democrats concerning the need for fiscal control, I wonder if Sen. Byrd and his dog "Billy" are having to rethink and even regret having opposed that position. I also find it interesting that when the other party proposes some legislation that in fact might be good, the "loyal opposition" fights the proposal not so much that the idea is all bad but rather it's not them proposing it. Once the political winds shift then the "loyal opposition" becomes the very proponent of the idea they once opposed. </p><p> </p><p>In the late 90's, both Clinton and Gore publically expressed concerns over the future of Social Security and the need to act now in some way to look in other directions and yes some type of private account was also on the table. Where were the republicans? Scuttling the potential by the impeachment process knowing full good and well it's chance was slim but the idea was to set themselves up for the 2000' White House run and the idea of taking control of not only the WH but also the entire Congress. The republicans could have easily pushed for censure which many democrats supported and they had support to pass but by-passed that. Had they taken this course, it's no doubt that they could have either made Clinton a meaningless figure in Washington but better yet, hold the threat of censure over his head to force him to agree and push their legislative agenda which the point is to legislate the principles and ideals right? </p><p> </p><p>Nope, it's about power. When the republicans sat on the crest of the wave which could insure their agenda they spoiled the deck by doing the Watergate payback deal and thinking this was the pathway to controlling Washington for the decades to come. Oh yes, a number of republicans have admitted the impeachment was as much about Watergate payback as it was anything else. IMO History will prove them wrong in their total thinking. Had they held the "political gun" to Clinton's head it's very probable we could already have various options with Social Security as well as a balanced budget amendment and a much smaller gov't. Hate or love Clinton but gov't growth rate under his watch was vastly smaller than the current bunch even when you factor out 9/11 and it's fallout. A divided house is a healthy house as it relates to the people as the inability to consolidate power means the force of gov't is never able to come fully force to bare against the people.</p><p> </p><p>Republicans blew a huge opportunity because they were never about principles but rather about gaining power and then buying support to maintain it. The key to success for America is one party in the White House and the other party by slim margin holds the Congress. </p><p> </p><p>JMHO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 89717, member: 2189"] In light of the political shifting winds and the recent comments by a wide degree of democrats concerning the need for fiscal control, I wonder if Sen. Byrd and his dog "Billy" are having to rethink and even regret having opposed that position. I also find it interesting that when the other party proposes some legislation that in fact might be good, the "loyal opposition" fights the proposal not so much that the idea is all bad but rather it's not them proposing it. Once the political winds shift then the "loyal opposition" becomes the very proponent of the idea they once opposed. In the late 90's, both Clinton and Gore publically expressed concerns over the future of Social Security and the need to act now in some way to look in other directions and yes some type of private account was also on the table. Where were the republicans? Scuttling the potential by the impeachment process knowing full good and well it's chance was slim but the idea was to set themselves up for the 2000' White House run and the idea of taking control of not only the WH but also the entire Congress. The republicans could have easily pushed for censure which many democrats supported and they had support to pass but by-passed that. Had they taken this course, it's no doubt that they could have either made Clinton a meaningless figure in Washington but better yet, hold the threat of censure over his head to force him to agree and push their legislative agenda which the point is to legislate the principles and ideals right? Nope, it's about power. When the republicans sat on the crest of the wave which could insure their agenda they spoiled the deck by doing the Watergate payback deal and thinking this was the pathway to controlling Washington for the decades to come. Oh yes, a number of republicans have admitted the impeachment was as much about Watergate payback as it was anything else. IMO History will prove them wrong in their total thinking. Had they held the "political gun" to Clinton's head it's very probable we could already have various options with Social Security as well as a balanced budget amendment and a much smaller gov't. Hate or love Clinton but gov't growth rate under his watch was vastly smaller than the current bunch even when you factor out 9/11 and it's fallout. A divided house is a healthy house as it relates to the people as the inability to consolidate power means the force of gov't is never able to come fully force to bare against the people. Republicans blew a huge opportunity because they were never about principles but rather about gaining power and then buying support to maintain it. The key to success for America is one party in the White House and the other party by slim margin holds the Congress. JMHO. [/QUOTE]
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