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<blockquote data-quote="pickup" data-source="post: 504440"><p>i believe it is a requirement to have haz mat endorsement to drive for ups freight, i have one. common, i don't know but it is not unheard of. placards are supposed to be applied to trlr when applicable ASAP whether it be against the dock or parked in the yard somewhere, private property or not. in regards to OP if this trlr contained POISON it was NOT very smart, but it is what it is, fortunately every thing turned out ok but.... poison i would have been nowhere near that trlr <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/sick.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":sick:" title="Sick :sick:" data-shortname=":sick:" /></p></blockquote><p></p><p></p><p>you've touched upon a gray area when it comes to private property. I believe on private property that d.o.t rules don't apply. For example, most shifters on ups property don't have license plates (the ones that do have them is so they can take something into an adjacent yard but have to go on a public street to access that yard) D.O.T. rules state you gotta have a license plate but apparently not on private property you don't which means d.o.t rules don't apply. So the placarding is not ASAP in my opinion. If they did apply, that would imply also that the yard jockey would have to have the manifest in his possession while he moved the trailer. (I doubt that happens as well). Just my opinion. I tried researching this a little but it seems there is nothing in the regulation books I am looking at that addresses this so I am relying on what I have seen and heard . </p><p></p><p>I know of a tank trailer wash (food grade and some hazmat) that has illegal mexicans as their yard jockeys.( hence no licenses and no hazmat endorsement with no plates on shifters.) Once in a while they go on the public street and a lot of times they cops catch them. but the cops can't touch them on their private property.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="pickup, post: 504440"] i believe it is a requirement to have haz mat endorsement to drive for ups freight, i have one. common, i don't know but it is not unheard of. placards are supposed to be applied to trlr when applicable ASAP whether it be against the dock or parked in the yard somewhere, private property or not. in regards to OP if this trlr contained POISON it was NOT very smart, but it is what it is, fortunately every thing turned out ok but.... poison i would have been nowhere near that trlr :sick:[/QUOTE] you've touched upon a gray area when it comes to private property. I believe on private property that d.o.t rules don't apply. For example, most shifters on ups property don't have license plates (the ones that do have them is so they can take something into an adjacent yard but have to go on a public street to access that yard) D.O.T. rules state you gotta have a license plate but apparently not on private property you don't which means d.o.t rules don't apply. So the placarding is not ASAP in my opinion. If they did apply, that would imply also that the yard jockey would have to have the manifest in his possession while he moved the trailer. (I doubt that happens as well). Just my opinion. I tried researching this a little but it seems there is nothing in the regulation books I am looking at that addresses this so I am relying on what I have seen and heard . I know of a tank trailer wash (food grade and some hazmat) that has illegal mexicans as their yard jockeys.( hence no licenses and no hazmat endorsement with no plates on shifters.) Once in a while they go on the public street and a lot of times they cops catch them. but the cops can't touch them on their private property. [/QUOTE]
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