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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 75802" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Another example is with Israel in captivity within Egypt. When the sons of Israel joined their brother Joseph in that land over the years they became comfortable and the only way to get them to come out was a little pain and suffering and yes I do believe that was the hand of God at work. Israel went on to established a gov't if you want to call it that which was tribal and very local in it's leadership. There was cross tribal relationships but the land was at peace and all matters were handled on a local basis. I've always found it a very interesting model and if one takes the time to look, the individual had great freedom and liberty even under what many would want to point out as being a theocracy. It was that in some respects but the level of freedom was still an amazing model to consider.</p><p> </p><p>Israel began it's descent into problems and corruptions when the people went to Samuel and demanded a King (central gov't if you will) like the rest of those who lived around them. YHWH (Jehovah if that's you flavor)wanted his people to remain a seperate and different people but they choose to be like the Jones and YHWH told Samuel to grant them a King in Saul. The rest they say is history. I'm sure many would disagree and object but without considering other texts as from God and using only the Israelite model, many contend including myself that YHWH's ideal of gov't is a very limited model of local jurisdiction only with the larger area being a collective in custom and manner only. The policing of one's self is done on the local level only.</p><p> </p><p>For whatever it's worth, that's my take. In the end, it's just opinion!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 75802, member: 2189"] Another example is with Israel in captivity within Egypt. When the sons of Israel joined their brother Joseph in that land over the years they became comfortable and the only way to get them to come out was a little pain and suffering and yes I do believe that was the hand of God at work. Israel went on to established a gov't if you want to call it that which was tribal and very local in it's leadership. There was cross tribal relationships but the land was at peace and all matters were handled on a local basis. I've always found it a very interesting model and if one takes the time to look, the individual had great freedom and liberty even under what many would want to point out as being a theocracy. It was that in some respects but the level of freedom was still an amazing model to consider. Israel began it's descent into problems and corruptions when the people went to Samuel and demanded a King (central gov't if you will) like the rest of those who lived around them. YHWH (Jehovah if that's you flavor)wanted his people to remain a seperate and different people but they choose to be like the Jones and YHWH told Samuel to grant them a King in Saul. The rest they say is history. I'm sure many would disagree and object but without considering other texts as from God and using only the Israelite model, many contend including myself that YHWH's ideal of gov't is a very limited model of local jurisdiction only with the larger area being a collective in custom and manner only. The policing of one's self is done on the local level only. For whatever it's worth, that's my take. In the end, it's just opinion! [/QUOTE]
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