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The ( OFFICIAL ) angry Contract results thread!
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<blockquote data-quote="Moneythehardway" data-source="post: 3764993" data-attributes="member: 18136"><p>There is a loophole that can benefit US, the members, in the IBT's loophole itself.</p><p></p><p>"In such circumstances where less than 50 percent of the membership votes on a <strong><u>final</u> <u>contract offer</u></strong>, the International Constitution provides that “a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting shall be required to reject such <strong><u>final offer</u></strong>…” Failure to reject the offer by at least two-thirds vote of those voting “shall require the negotiating committee to accept such <strong><u>final</u></strong> offer<strong><u> OR </u></strong>such additional provisions as <strong><u>can be negotiated by it.</u></strong>”</p><p></p><p>You see, this has not been relayed to us to be a "Final" offer, therefore it cannot be a final offer unless stated, which it has not been stated (And if someone is saying it is, please provide references of such). Therefore there would have to be another offer (even if nothing much changes within it) that ups at that time states IS a final offer THEN we would need the 50% or 2/3rds in which I believe we would rally and get more votes to make the 50% which wasn't that far off to begin with (About another 5000 votes)</p><p></p><p>Secondly the "OR" is very important as well and should not be overlooked. So by the laws of the IBT's constitution negotiations can go on further from this point and does NOT have to be 'imposed'.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Moneythehardway, post: 3764993, member: 18136"] There is a loophole that can benefit US, the members, in the IBT's loophole itself. "In such circumstances where less than 50 percent of the membership votes on a [B][U]final[/U] [U]contract offer[/U][/B], the International Constitution provides that “a two-thirds (2/3) vote of those voting shall be required to reject such [B][U]final offer[/U][/B]…” Failure to reject the offer by at least two-thirds vote of those voting “shall require the negotiating committee to accept such [B][U]final[/U][/B] offer[B][U] OR [/U][/B]such additional provisions as [B][U]can be negotiated by it.[/U][/B]” You see, this has not been relayed to us to be a "Final" offer, therefore it cannot be a final offer unless stated, which it has not been stated (And if someone is saying it is, please provide references of such). Therefore there would have to be another offer (even if nothing much changes within it) that ups at that time states IS a final offer THEN we would need the 50% or 2/3rds in which I believe we would rally and get more votes to make the 50% which wasn't that far off to begin with (About another 5000 votes) Secondly the "OR" is very important as well and should not be overlooked. So by the laws of the IBT's constitution negotiations can go on further from this point and does NOT have to be 'imposed'. [/QUOTE]
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