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<blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 5186468" data-attributes="member: 56035"><p>war is a racket.</p><p></p><p>Lawrence Wilkerson: And Ralph, those assurances were powerful. I just had a debate literally with one of my old friends over Jim Baker supposedly having come back and recanted and said that no, when he got back to Washington, the assurances that [Helmut] Kohl had been given in Germany and [Eduard] Shevardnadze and Gorbachev had been given in Moscow, were not acceptable to George H. W. Bush. Well, my man, Colin Powell, my boss at the time, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, due to Goldwater–Nichols [Act], attended all the NSC [National Security Council] meetings. He was the principal by Goldwater–Nichols, the change to the 1947 National Security Act, the penultimate amendment. He was the principal advisor, the principal military advisor to the president of the NSC and the Secretary of Defense. So he went to the meetings and he never came back and told me anything about that and he debriefed me on all the meetings. So as far as I was concerned, Powell's euphoria; he was ecstatic even about what was happening, that Russia was possibly going to be an observer at NATO and maybe even eventually a member of NATO. And where did we go astray in that history? Where did we go from that halcyon time when the Cold War was over and H. W. Bush to his inestimable credit did not want to beat his chest, did not want to trump it, did not want to claim victory and so forth. He just wanted to get on with, as he called it, the new world order, a peaceful world order. What happened to all of that? </p><p></p><p>What happened to all that happiness and joy [chuckle], if you will, at the end of the Cold War and the prospect of peace? Well, Bill Clinton largely happened to it when in 1994, he decided that he needed some more foreign policy bona fides. <strong>And oh, by the way, he needed some more contributions from corporations like Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and [Northrop] Grumman and so forth and more bona fides in the national security field.</strong> So he began a very rapid expansion of NATO with no consideration whatsoever for what the other side, in this case, Russia might think.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://secureservercdn.net/198.71.233.111/c03.434.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Ralph-Nader-Radio-Hour-Ep-415-Transcript.pdf[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rickyb, post: 5186468, member: 56035"] war is a racket. Lawrence Wilkerson: And Ralph, those assurances were powerful. I just had a debate literally with one of my old friends over Jim Baker supposedly having come back and recanted and said that no, when he got back to Washington, the assurances that [Helmut] Kohl had been given in Germany and [Eduard] Shevardnadze and Gorbachev had been given in Moscow, were not acceptable to George H. W. Bush. Well, my man, Colin Powell, my boss at the time, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, due to Goldwater–Nichols [Act], attended all the NSC [National Security Council] meetings. He was the principal by Goldwater–Nichols, the change to the 1947 National Security Act, the penultimate amendment. He was the principal advisor, the principal military advisor to the president of the NSC and the Secretary of Defense. So he went to the meetings and he never came back and told me anything about that and he debriefed me on all the meetings. So as far as I was concerned, Powell's euphoria; he was ecstatic even about what was happening, that Russia was possibly going to be an observer at NATO and maybe even eventually a member of NATO. And where did we go astray in that history? Where did we go from that halcyon time when the Cold War was over and H. W. Bush to his inestimable credit did not want to beat his chest, did not want to trump it, did not want to claim victory and so forth. He just wanted to get on with, as he called it, the new world order, a peaceful world order. What happened to all of that? What happened to all that happiness and joy [chuckle], if you will, at the end of the Cold War and the prospect of peace? Well, Bill Clinton largely happened to it when in 1994, he decided that he needed some more foreign policy bona fides. [B]And oh, by the way, he needed some more contributions from corporations like Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and [Northrop] Grumman and so forth and more bona fides in the national security field.[/B] So he began a very rapid expansion of NATO with no consideration whatsoever for what the other side, in this case, Russia might think. [URL unfurl="true"]https://secureservercdn.net/198.71.233.111/c03.434.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Ralph-Nader-Radio-Hour-Ep-415-Transcript.pdf[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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