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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5188497" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>And I'll reply with a question.  Are the current political borders the same borders that have always been?  For thousands of years?  Take the Kurds.  Largest ethnic group in the world without its own nation.  Spread across in significant numbers 4 or 5 nations.  They have revolted numerous times which have been put down by various governments.  Take Armenia.  Once much larger but land taken away by the Turks who tried to kill all of them at one point.  In terms of years or decades things may seem set in stone but over time things are fluid and whether a nation remains the same depends on its ability to defend its borders.</p></blockquote><p></p>