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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5197087" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>Baloney.&nbsp; Why not just put nukes in Eastern Europe then?&nbsp; We haven&#039;t.&nbsp; We don&#039;t need Ukraine to be close to Moscow.&nbsp; A few extra seconds?&nbsp; We have nuclear subs that will annihilate Russia in a matter of minutes.&nbsp; We&#039;ve got no concerns about Russia getting the drop on us and destroying us before we can respond.&nbsp; Why not just admit the obvious?&nbsp; Europe is prosperous.&nbsp; Open.&nbsp; Free.&nbsp; Russia isn&#039;t.&nbsp; Ukraine wants prosperity.&nbsp; It doesn&#039;t want to be dominated.&nbsp; The West sees a potential market to trade with.&nbsp; Russia sees a servant that it can dominate.&nbsp; With no tolerance for anything other than subservience.&nbsp; What Putin and the oligarchs don&#039;t want is a free, open, and prosperous neighbor that rose out of the ashes of communism.&nbsp; 143 million Russians might get restless, wondering why they can&#039;t do the same.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5197087, member: 24302"] Baloney. Why not just put nukes in Eastern Europe then? We haven't. We don't need Ukraine to be close to Moscow. A few extra seconds? We have nuclear subs that will annihilate Russia in a matter of minutes. We've got no concerns about Russia getting the drop on us and destroying us before we can respond. Why not just admit the obvious? Europe is prosperous. Open. Free. Russia isn't. Ukraine wants prosperity. It doesn't want to be dominated. The West sees a potential market to trade with. Russia sees a servant that it can dominate. With no tolerance for anything other than subservience. What Putin and the oligarchs don't want is a free, open, and prosperous neighbor that rose out of the ashes of communism. 143 million Russians might get restless, wondering why they can't do the same. [/QUOTE]

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