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<blockquote data-quote="wilberforce15" data-source="post: 5199363" data-attributes="member: 5053"><p>I didn't blame Biden for Putin's actions. First, 'blame' is a moral claim. I'm talking about predictable and stupid chess moves.</p><p></p><p>Second, Biden wasn't a primary mover behind pushing for Ukraine into Nato.</p><p></p><p>We overthrew Ukraine's government under Obama. We pushed the Baltics into NATO under Clinton and W. All of these were stupid.</p><p></p><p>NATO started pushing East right after the wall fell, contrary to our promises. The entire administrative state and military apparatus pushed for this for 2 decades.</p><p></p><p>Putin let us push right up against his borders repeatedly before the rabid dog lashed out. It actually took longer than I expected.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wilberforce15, post: 5199363, member: 5053"] I didn't blame Biden for Putin's actions. First, 'blame' is a moral claim. I'm talking about predictable and stupid chess moves. Second, Biden wasn't a primary mover behind pushing for Ukraine into Nato. We overthrew Ukraine's government under Obama. We pushed the Baltics into NATO under Clinton and W. All of these were stupid. NATO started pushing East right after the wall fell, contrary to our promises. The entire administrative state and military apparatus pushed for this for 2 decades. Putin let us push right up against his borders repeatedly before the rabid dog lashed out. It actually took longer than I expected. [/QUOTE]
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